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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: gandolph420 on June 20, 2011, 11:41 pm

Title: victems
Post by: gandolph420 on June 20, 2011, 11:41 pm
Anyone know if this guy is legit or not?

Seems a little too good to be true.
Title: Re: victems
Post by: shpongle on June 21, 2011, 02:48 am

Seems a little too good to be true.

I concur. His prices are weird... $70 for one 80mg oxy, but $100 for 10 80's??
Title: Re: victems
Post by: idlewild62 on June 21, 2011, 08:57 am
It is 5 for $70. I ordered yesterday and it is in transit. I will let you know how it turns out.
Title: Re: victems
Post by: nomad bloodbath on June 21, 2011, 02:04 pm
Those have to be OP80's, no way OC80's sell that cheap ever again. :D
Title: Re: victems
Post by: shpongle on June 21, 2011, 04:26 pm
idlewild62, it's five for $70? That still seems low. Please keep us updated.

edit: nomad, his posting says they are the old formulation, brand name OC's.
So if this is the real deal, I'll definitely pick some up.
Title: Re: victems
Post by: idlewild62 on June 21, 2011, 04:45 pm
According to his questions and answers they are OC and I ordered 10 for around $103.00. I will keep you posted.
Title: Re: victems
Post by: nomad bloodbath on June 21, 2011, 06:23 pm
nomad, his posting says they are the old formulation, brand name OC's.
So if this is the real deal, I'll definitely pick some up.

Hmmm well a custom photo would end the speculation in a heartbeat and probably boost sales. ;)
Title: Re: victems
Post by: gandolph420 on June 21, 2011, 08:06 pm
Well through talking with victems through the SR chat I have asked him to supply a photo as proof of product and this was his response;

"shipping is included, for small amounts (1-20 or so) atleast
as for the picture... im not sure, let me think about it
i can think of a few potential problems with that, but let me look into how i can do it securely and i'll get back to you"

So if he can supply proof of product or a solid review comes up I will definitely make a purchase, but until then I cant do it.

Well if he does it through the SR escrow I might go ahead with it, seems like the safer route.

I hope someone comes up with a review soon.
Title: Re: victems
Post by: nomad bloodbath on June 21, 2011, 08:43 pm
Take Picture.
Strip EXIF info.
Upload to.onion image hosting site.

It's not rocket science.
Let me guess he doesn't have a PGP Public Key either, much less know how to encrypt/decrypt messages.

Reeks of bad vendor choice.
Title: Re: victems
Post by: idlewild62 on June 21, 2011, 09:40 pm
Isn't the whole idea of escrow is not to get ripped off?
Title: Re: victems
Post by: nomad bloodbath on June 21, 2011, 09:59 pm
Yeah but you don't know how many times, "hey finalize the order so I can send the btc back to you because they are trapped in escrow." actually works and the scammer walks with the bitcoin.
Sometimes you have to count on more than escrow to keep your btc from being tied up.

Now I could be totally wrong about this cat, but how hard is it to make a photo and show everyone product and put them at ease. Any real vendor would do it in 5 minutes from being asked to and not make up excuses.
Title: Re: victems
Post by: gandolph420 on June 22, 2011, 09:22 pm
@ idle

Did you end up receiving product?
Title: Re: victems
Post by: idlewild62 on June 22, 2011, 11:07 pm
There is a postal strike in Canada, so my order my be delayed a little.
Title: Re: victems
Post by: chronicpain on June 23, 2011, 03:52 am
Remember, the OC's in Canada were never changed to the new formulation. Same thing with Mexico.  I believe the canadians has a different marking, i know that they used to. So, if they are from Canada, there is a good chance that they are legit. Still tho, Ill still take my opana over the old OC's anyday.
Title: Re: victems
Post by: lvlbrained on June 28, 2011, 03:03 am
any news on this guy?
Title: Re: victems
Post by: salad on June 28, 2011, 03:35 am
I still have not received my order (probasbly been a week and a half) and now it says on his page that he isnt selling anything due to the canadian postal strike. I havent looked into it but can't you mail things in Canada in other ways like UPS, Fedex, etc.... I no it isn't ideal but fuck man, sometimes you have to do things different to keep the ball rolling
Title: Re: victems
Post by: idlewild62 on June 28, 2011, 01:56 pm
No news yet. I believe Canada Post is going to start delivering today. He took his listing off while the postal strike was going on. I will report as soon as I receive my order.
Title: Re: victems
Post by: tonic on June 30, 2011, 03:33 pm
I too ordered from this guy (some blue telephones) last week, I believe on the 23rd. He messaged saying product shipped on the 24th.

Still have yet to receive anything, but this could have been due to the postal strike in Canada. Anyway, the money is still in escrow so I guess I can still get it back if necessary? Not sure why he would scam through escrow since it doesn't make him any $$.

I messaged him a day or two ago and still haven't heard back, so I guess I'm not too hopeful at this point.
Title: Re: victems
Post by: nomad bloodbath on June 30, 2011, 04:53 pm
Last time I ordered from Canada to the US it took 5 days at least.
EU usually takes 8, but that doesn't really matter in this case.
:D
Title: Re: victems
Post by: lvlbrained on June 30, 2011, 08:00 pm
i ordered last week, said was shipping parcel service (not canada post) should have been here tuesday. clicked sent with in 5 minutes of me placing order, wouldnt give me tracking number. looks like hes BS. sadly cant contest order for a few days.

update:
I talked to him tonight and seemed ok and is looking into it, should know something monday night, so will know more then
Title: Re: victems
Post by: tonic on July 01, 2011, 01:32 am
i ordered last week, said was shipping parcel service (not canada post) should have been here tuesday. clicked sent with in 5 minutes of me placing order, wouldnt give me tracking number. looks like hes BS. sadly cant contest order for a few days.

update:
I talked to him tonight and seemed ok and is looking into it, should know something monday night, so will know more then

talked to him via SR message or how? he never responded to my message earlier this week :(
Title: Re: victems
Post by: lvlbrained on July 01, 2011, 01:51 am
just sr messages
Title: Re: victems
Post by: tonic on July 01, 2011, 03:11 am
hmmm, he just hit me back by PM too. he says there were probably delays due to postal strike and that if i don't have them by next tuesday, hit him up and he'll either reship or refund.
Title: Re: victems
Post by: idlewild62 on July 01, 2011, 09:10 am
I just talked to him via pm and he said everyone's orders were held up by the strike. He is going to relist as soon as he gets his money out of escrow. I think we just have to wait a little while longer. I can imagine there was quite a backlog of mail to go through. :D
Title: Re: victems
Post by: tonic on July 01, 2011, 02:44 pm
yeah, fingers crossed.
Title: Re: victems
Post by: idlewild62 on July 02, 2011, 03:31 pm
I didn't get anything today. Anyone received their order yet? :-X
Title: Re: victems
Post by: tonic on July 02, 2011, 04:04 pm
Nothing yesterday, no mail yet today. He continues to respond to PMs though. For some reason I really don't feel like this guy is scamming, yet it seems that no one's packages are turning up :<
Title: Re: victems
Post by: tonic on July 02, 2011, 09:32 pm
And still nothing today. Bummer.
Title: Re: victems
Post by: lvlbrained on July 02, 2011, 09:44 pm
canada post was down from june 15th to 27th. if you ordered during that period i dont even know how it could have been mailed since post offices and boxes were all locked. but assuming it somehow got in a box it wouldnt have started on its journey until 28th of june.
Title: Re: victems
Post by: idlewild62 on July 03, 2011, 01:27 pm
nothing for me yesterday :(
Title: Re: victems
Post by: gandolph420 on July 04, 2011, 02:29 pm
Just to let you guys know, I had 3 packages stuck within the Canada Post mail system and I have received them all already.  Even with a backlog it shouldnt take that much time.  If it wasnt received today then I cant imagine it will come. (unless you have a tracking number with which it tells you different).

Just an FYI!
Title: Re: victems
Post by: idlewild62 on July 05, 2011, 05:02 pm
I am beginning to wonder where my package is. :(
Title: Re: victems
Post by: phubaiblues on July 06, 2011, 02:43 am
Yeah, on my drug sellers, I'm starting to notice that the good ones always reply quickly and convincingly to pm's and the ones we've had to start threads on, have taken part in the threads also, keeping us informed, and end up looking better at end of day, by not leaving us hanging and wondering...I'm sorry this seems to be happening, but I've been following this thread, as it's informative and cautionary...

Seems like, as buyers, starting threads not only helps other buyers beware of the seller, it also shows the good sellers in a better lite.  best wishes on this one...
Title: Re: victems
Post by: tonic on July 07, 2011, 02:17 am
still nothing here today (wednesday) =(
Title: Re: victems
Post by: salad on July 07, 2011, 02:25 am
Nothing here either :( well I think we all have a good case for 100% money back since it seems like there are a lot of people with the same issue.
Title: Re: victems
Post by: lvlbrained on July 07, 2011, 02:56 am
well i admit the canadian mail system is totally fucked at the moment. today i got a bill from june 9th already over due. i was told my order was shipped courier, then told it was returned and he would refund my money, i offered to give 1 more try if he shiped with tracking, he agreed but i was ment to hear from him today and havent. if no tracking number tomorrow i'm done. atleast i have a message from him offering me my money back so i dont think he can contest it to much.
Title: Re: victems
Post by: chronicpain on July 07, 2011, 03:11 am
His prices seemed a little too good to be true...I mean, he was selling them for less than what the pharmacy charges. I don't want to speculate too much, but it looks grim each day that goes by with no arrivals.. I hope that he comes thru...  theres still a chance...
Title: Re: victems
Post by: lvlbrained on July 07, 2011, 07:36 pm
i just canceled my order got a refund. good luck guys. i'm out of this mess. make sure you dont let the time expire on your order and he gets the money by default, hover over finalize button and it will tell you how much time you have left before he gets the money.
Title: Re: victems
Post by: anarcho47 on July 08, 2011, 02:26 am
Just to let you guys know I had a guy just get his order from me yesterday, and I was reading an article on CTV earlier that says there is still a 40 million mail-piece backlog in CP right now (because the poor guys can't work overtime so they are "forced" to return to the depot without delivering eveything.........).

He just posted earlier over in my review forum, so for my customers I haven't been tracking the forum posts on this (I apologize) but I have been keeping in constant contact via PM whenever someone has a question. 
Title: Re: victems
Post by: idlewild62 on July 08, 2011, 08:59 am
I canceled my order a couple of days ago and he was only willing to refund half of my money. I have to wait 3 more days for SR to take over. I know the strike wasn't his fault, but I could use the money to buy more good stuff. If I  ever did receive it I would pay him for it. :(
Title: Re: victems
Post by: salad on July 11, 2011, 11:07 pm
Has ANYBODY received anything from this guy yet?
Title: Re: victems
Post by: gandolph420 on July 13, 2011, 07:39 am
Did any of you guys get a tracking ##?  Cause it seems like out of the three orders no one did, which is a huge sign that this guy is not legit.  I wouldnt waste your time or money on him, I do find it funny he has re-posted his product though.

All I know is I had a few packages in the mail and I received mine( they werent from SR) and even with the backlog, CP is heavily over-staffed so I cant imagine they will be back logged that much.

Id cancel your order and demand a full refund.
Title: Re: victems
Post by: smodcastle on July 16, 2011, 03:55 am
Hi y'all Im pretty new here, but this seemed like a good place to jump in and pose this question thats been weighing on me. One would assume that any Fed or police activity would most productively be aimed at seller's, but the EASY info would be gained from buyers since Im sure theres a good lot of them that give their home address as the "ship to", with their real names so as to not risk delivery failure. So my question is, might "victems" (or not him, insert shifty seller here) be using this just to phish for names and addresses of users? And might posting something that he doesnt really have for sale be a good way of doing that? This is pretty much my #1 concern on here, as I only ever plan on being a buyer. Big fuckin kudos to sellers, you guys have bigger balls than me. Please, someone thats been around here for awhile, if you could offer any thoughts on this that would be fantastic. Thanks! ~smod
Title: Re: victems
Post by: chronicpain on July 16, 2011, 04:18 am
Yea, it doesn't seem there is any reason to offer to sell something and then return everyone's money. I mean, he isn't making money because of the escrow. I can only assume the worst with victems and ApeX. They are fishing and most likely LEO. There are a lot of people that dont come on these boards to find out if there is a scam.

There are like 30k members at the market yet only 1300 here. I Just hope that vendors aren't stupid enough to use their own account to purchase things.

I don't see LEO actually sending out a legit product. But, who knows what they are up to. I also don't see them going after the buyers wanting an 1/8th or whatever. I think their main goal is to match a buyer with a seller.
Title: Re: victems
Post by: phubaiblues on July 17, 2011, 03:56 am
Yep.  That's why it's *so* important to start small with unknown sellers.  Until they get enough feedback from a variety of buyers...it's just not a good idea to send much to an unknow seller...even if the price is *really* good....*especially* if the price is really good :)
Title: Re: victems
Post by: lowberry on July 18, 2011, 07:33 pm
did I just make a mistake by ordering a 80mg oxy from this guy? nothing looks good in this thread...
Title: Re: victems
Post by: nomad bloodbath on July 18, 2011, 07:44 pm
did I just make a mistake by ordering a 80mg oxy from this guy? nothing looks good in this thread...
From his last 4 feedbacks I would say you did.
PM him and ask for an order cancel.
IF he doesnt reply, consult SR via PM.
Also if he puts it in transit after you have requested a cancel consult SR.
Title: Re: victems
Post by: phubaiblues on July 18, 2011, 10:38 pm
I'd also mention to him that he should come over to the forums and explain himself, if he doesn't want his reputation to totally get demolished over here.  Sometimes when they realize this is happening, they improve their game...I wouldn't expect it though....bad rep is usually true.  And I've found forums much more reliable than feedback anyway...
Title: Re: victems
Post by: rx4200 on July 18, 2011, 10:46 pm
This guy is fucking weird! I ordered a few OCs from him without checking up first...the excitement got to me for a minute...but a few days later her PMd me saying that he only sells one per customer and for people considering getting large amounts....sounds like fucking bull shit to me but he canceled my order and I got my BTCs back....good thing i dont use my real name or address...possibly a donut eating pice of shit....