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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: byte on June 19, 2011, 11:09 am
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I've noticed some sellers are offering guns and ammunition on Silk Road.
Do you think this is a scam? I mean how is a seller suppose to get these items into a country? You can't put it in a letter, lol.
I contacted one of them out of curiosity and he claimed he shipped them within an appliance. Sounds like bull shit to me.
Thoughts?
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Not tried it yet, but I think it works withing most countries if you take care. Hide it in something, send a package with the gun parts. Bit risky though.
Greets, M
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it depends on whether more profiling or x-raying is used to find such stuff, anyone has a source about the post/customs practices?
that said, there are so many (semi-)legal gun replicas sold and traded around, i wonder how these get through.
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I'm not sure what's usually on there, but I don't see any actual complete firearms up at the moment. The closest there is now is a stripped M16 lower with an offer to build up a complete firearm for an additional price. I wouldn't be surprised if you could get away with shipping a stripped M16 lower through most customs departments without anyone figuring out what it was, especially with some distractor parts or funny labeling. Then again, it's pretty easy to get the rest of the parts in the US, but I have no idea about other countries.
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If its US to US, I doubt there's much of a problem. Most sellers appear to be US-based, so I can see that market...
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Just my opinion, but I think guns and ammo on SR should be frowned upon.
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@cronus12
I think *you* should be frowned upon.
Stop takin' our freedumbs, guns don't kill people, people kill people. Now kindly remove your snotty nose from our gun thread. Shoo!
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I do not have anything against guns, just guns in the hands of those who intend to cause harm to others.
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Mandatory psychological tests for all new users it is then.
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@cronus12
GTFO of this thread before I pin you down and inject you with an overdose of drugs!
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sandybridge, I'll post on whatever thread I want, you GTFO you arm chair tough guy.
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ok
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lol
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The only solution is to BAN EVERYTHING.
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Just to drag this thread back on topic...
I used to know a gent who fled LE here in the UK and went to stay with family in the US. Another ex associate of mine used to mail out pills to him and in return he would send guns and ammo back to the UK.
Shipping method..
He would strip the guns and send them with ammo inside ice hockey boots.
X ray opaque I believe.
This was 10 years or so ago but I know for a fact he made at least two successful deliveries.
I suspect this method would still work for guns and many other items.
Tommy
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people need to get over their knee-jerk anti-gun reaction.,,
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Think of the children!
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>>Think of the children!
Exactly! I know you were just kidding, but people say these emotional but empty statements like this and never bother to understand the real life situations in which weaponry is needed for defense. Many people live in peaceful countries countries with few guns and think the rest of us would be better off that way, but have no understanding of the root causes of violence, which varies from country to country, but can be largely summarized as resulting from past religious/tribal rivalries, mass income inequality, lack of education, and / or lack of democratic structures in government. Take away the guns and all this still remains and people starting using knives, except the large criminal organizations, which will ways have a constant supply of guns bought in bulk regardless of what SR or the gov't is doing.
So what are you really accomplishing by trying to stop individuals from buying guns?
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So what are you really accomplishing by trying to stop individuals from buying guns?
Keeping the weak weak and the strong strong.
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Actually my bigger worry kind of boils down to this. "whenver you put your faith in the state, sooner or later you become an apologist for mass murder".....
Seriously. I don't care if it's a "democracy", a "republic", a kingdom, a dictatorship, communist, etc. They all share the same quality in that one small group of people is given a completely monopoly on the exercise of violence. They are "responsible" for exercising that monopoly for the good of the people *cough*, but are also responsible for turning that monopoly on violence against themselves if they do anything that isn't good for the people.
Now, just a theoretical question here. If you have a structure that has a monopoly on violence and its deemed necessity, what the hell kind of people do you think are going to be attracted to "work" for this sort of enterprise? Peaceful people who just want to live and trade and get by (maybe get rich doing it if they are smart enough)? Or legalists who look for the opportunity to make people do what THEY think is right (regardless if anyone is being hurt in the process), or people who just like to have power over others, or people who are that nice blend of sadistic and sociopathic and just want to hurt the shit out of everyone else.
All of these people can not only exercise these qualities about themselves without restraint. They can get fucking paid to to it! With money that is taken from peaceful, voluntary people at the point of a gun.........
It's not criminals I'm worried about (I mean REAL criminals that want to damage someone's property or steal it, or hurt someone), it's the people who think they are right to lock someone in a cage or send hundreds of thousands of volts through their body or kidnap them from their family for not following their orders, or whatever bullshit some other people who want to impose their ideas happen to write down ona piece of paper. I own guns because if it comes down to it, I am way more scared of the state than any two-bit criminal. one bullet (maybe 2 or 3, depending on how many there are) is enough to stop a sadistic criminal.
How many bullets does it take to stop a sadistic state?
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If you're buying an M16 with the serial number removed from SR you are unlikely to be using it responsibly.
But you're right that this is not a thread for discussing the rights and wrongs of guns being sold on SR. If people have an opinion on the matter it should probably go here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=300.0
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\what the hell kind of people do you think are going to be attracted to "work" for this sort of enterprise? Peaceful people who just want to live and trade and get by (maybe get rich doing it if they are smart enough)? Or legalists who look for the opportunity to make people do what THEY think is right (regardless if anyone is being hurt in the process), or people who just like to have power over others, or people who are that nice blend of sadistic and sociopathic and just want to hurt the shit out of everyone else.
When I was younger I wanted to be a police officer because I believed all the bullshit about the "thin blue line" and that the state works for the benefit of the people. I got involved with law enforcement for a short while with the military, but I got out before pursuing a LE career. After being taught that shouting, "STOP RESISTING" is an easy way to land some cheap shots on a subdued suspect. the dream kinda died. I guess now I kind of switched sides. lol
Don't fall for the apologists saying, "OH THEY'RE NOT ALL BAD!" Those in the system are either sadistic freaks who enjoy being pigs or mindless drones who actually believe they're doing good (or just working for the paycheck). If there are any good ones, they're either brand new or long gone.
My advice is don't get all gaga over cops and soldiers, even when they get killed. As an ex soldier, I can tell you a large portion of the military is made up of young guys who want to prove themselves by killing. They'd turn on the citizens they swore to protect if they were ordered to, because a lot of them are too gutless to object or disobey orders. Hell, the system could just make up false intel to kill some citizens they don't like. Happens all the time.
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RickyRango, I love you man. Common-sense is so hard to find. It's so pittifully ironic that the drug apologists want to cherry-pick what rights and freedoms a person should have... they're just as bad as the governments they claim to be defying.
I'm fixing to start dealing in small handguns... No cheap Jennings crap tho. Ugh.
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^ Taurus. They make the best gun for your buck, from personal experience. And they are brazilian so you are promoting world peace via international trade (the only way this could be achieved), and helping keep tens of millions of bautiful women healthily curvaceous by sending money to them :)
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I prefer the Compact Glocks and the Kel Tecs.
Kel Tec gave themselves a bad name by trying to re-use parts from the P-32 and P-3AT when they created the PF-9. Lots of people still bitch about them because of that one hiccup several years ago, but they're just as good a Glock these days.
Besides, who in a gun-deprived foreign country has any idea of a gun other than a Glock? Their country's propaganda machines have filled their heads with visions of blowing up sky-scrapers with that 'powerful' Glock 9mm... gun haters from these countries have founded their ideas in wild fantasy. A G17 is still a decent gun, and they recognize the name...
If I tried to less a Less Baer 1911, who would have any idea what it was or be willing to pay for it? Do they even get to read the words "Browning Hi-Power" where they live? Much less realise it's not a big deal?
I hear parts of the US have trouble getting small handguns... I carry mine every day, and it hasn't killed anyone or forced me into a murderous rampage against my will... I've been pissed off pretty bad with a gun in my pocket... Never have I been screwed up enough to think that shooting someone because I got mad was a good idea... Nor have I ever known anyone who did.
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I love my Heckler & Koch P30 :P
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RickyRango, I love you man. Common-sense is so hard to find. It's so pittifully ironic that the drug apologists want to cherry-pick what rights and freedoms a person should have... they're just as bad as the governments they claim to be defying.
I'm fixing to start dealing in small handguns... No cheap Jennings crap tho. Ugh.
;)
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I love my Heckler & Koch P30 :P
did you buy it from ricky rango?
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I love my Heckler & Koch P30 :P
did you buy it from ricky rango?
No, that would have been waaaaaay too risky given my location. We have very strict laws here and the only way to get a proper pistol is to pay a ridiculous high price to a shady serbian :D
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Bad people will always get guns - especially since all LE are given one, and they're 100% scumbags.
We need to have as much firepower on SR as possible. Put weapons in the hands of revolutionaries!
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I always said if you REALLY wanted to do foreign aid, and you were rich... just hand out firearms to oppressed africans and point at the totalitarian regimes keeping them destitute.
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Bad people will always get guns - especially since all LE are given one, and they're 100% scumbags.
We need to have as much firepower on SR as possible. Put weapons in the hands of revolutionaries!
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