As a businessman involved in the sourcing and selling of illicit products, I obviously don't want to see drugs legalized - I'm out a business.That being said, on a moral level there should be no "illegal" or "legal" when it comes to substance of any kind, or any two-way-voluntary association regarding any substance. A thing can not in and of itself be evil. The law even loosely recognizes this because it is ACTS that are illegal (possession, selling, manufacturing, distributing, transporting, etc). All verbs. So we are talking about human action here, and according to the moral code by which I live, and human nature is generally centered when it doesn't have a sugar-daddy-with-guns at its back, a human action cannot be wrong unless it violates one of the negative rights we are vested with by nature of our humanity.I'm going to have to strongly contest you on extra-legal drug markets, Pine. There should be no recognition of a state claiming authority over ANY voluntary human exchange, unless it violates the NAP (child sex trafficking, slavery, etc.). All you do by handing the ability to license production/distribution/sales of drugs over to the state is create another oligopoly that become the next set of cartels. The state can still smash anyone producing on their own without being overlord-approved. That is horrible. You aren't going to change the minds of legalists. Ever. they are on the fast track to fire and brimstone and I say let them fucking eat it up, and good riddance. They are apostates, the truly lost, and they can have that shit all the way to their miserable graves. We have to remove the ability for "democracy" to even exist in the first place. I've mentioned this several times before, but under democracy you essentially have a 100% post-modern collective/mob morality of 50%+1. This is why in the past we had laws that put a black man in jail for trying to marry a white woman, that put people in jail for attempting to help slaves escape the plantations (and yes Lincoln signed off on some of those laws, for all those who think he was anything but a sadistic tyrant), or that decided the ownership, use, manufacture, or sale of a particular arrangement of molecules is suddenly wrong and warrants murdering people or locking them in cages.Once you hand that power over there is no going back. You either have to wait it out until it devolves into a parasite that has outgrown the host and dies its death, or revolt. As soon as the scale is tipped and the majority lesser-producers/or parasites can start violently appropriating from the productive class, it's done until the process is complete and the productive class have fled entirely or have nothing left to bleed.The same goes for drugs. All you would do in the extra-legal sense is create an oligopoly that is fully controlled by the state, and would be run for the benefit of the sadistic political class and their cronies. What we actually need is the recognition that no fictional entity that backs its every mandate by violence can ever claim the authority to sanction, modify, regulate, or interfere with any voluntary human interaction. Whether that's sitting down for a cup of coffee with a friend of shooting up heroin in a coffee shop and relaxing for a few hours, the state (should it exist at all) gets to go fuck itself sideways and just watch humanity progress, leaving the dinosaurs in the dust.