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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: p1klz on July 01, 2013, 08:38 am

Title: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: p1klz on July 01, 2013, 08:38 am
Ok so I'm watching this right now!! There's an ex- RL MDMA vendor spilling his guts on TV right now!! Will update when the articles over..
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Vendor INTERVEIWED
Post by: p1klz on July 01, 2013, 08:39 am
OMG guys!!! This fucked!!! Who else is watching this??  ??? ??? :(


I can't believe this little shit is giving away everything!!! We have a word for people like him in Australia!! Fucking DOG!!! DIE CUNT!
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Vendor INTERVEIWED
Post by: asphyx on July 01, 2013, 08:47 am
He was even dumb enough to show himself on TV and give his name.
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Vendor INTERVEIWED
Post by: p1klz on July 01, 2013, 08:50 am
Ok so here it go's...

This little shit was busted for selling MDMA IRL that he was buying from SR He says in the interview that he wasn't busted by electronic crimes squad or anything like that. He feels that he must have been informed by neighbors due to high traffic volume at his house. He's totally go on camera and told the nation the in's and out's of how SR operates. He did also mention how safe that SR has made being able to purchase drugs as opposed to buying them on the street due to the information that's at hand on the products. What an asshole!! I can't believe this guy made mention of SR if he got busted via different means other than a CD. He didn't get busted by customs or the Feds. He had state police arrest him on information they received and he just spills his guts when they had no clue of his use of SR at all. What a fucking moron!! And now he's there more than likely getting paid for the interview totally lifting the lid on the whole thing!!

This interview wasn't about dark net in general but instead it was about SR specifically. How many others saw this shit??
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: asphyx on July 01, 2013, 08:54 am
http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/lifestyle/article/-/17821047/online-black-market/

Here's the article with some quotes.

Well done to Today Tonight for letting half the Australian population know about SR.
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: p1klz on July 01, 2013, 08:55 am
He was even dumb enough to show himself on TV and give his name.

Yeah what an asshole!! What's this guys mentality? Oh well, it's over for me me so now I'm gunna get another $10k for interview and I'm sweet..


Not to mention the segment on A Current Affair about the same shit the other night. Fuck me, just leave us alone. At least through SR people aren't getting knee-capped and shot over who owns what spot on the forums!!! HAHA! Imagine that?
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: p1klz on July 01, 2013, 08:56 am
He was even dumb enough to show himself on TV and give his name.

Yeah what an asshole!! What's this guys mentality? Oh well, it's over for me me so now I'm gunna get another $10k for interview and I'm sweet..


Not to mention the segment on A Current Affair about the same shit the other night. Fuck me, just leave us alone. At least through SR people aren't getting knee-capped and shot over who owns what spot on the forums!!! HAHA! Imagine that?



Fuck that was quick man! Thanks for the link so everyone can see this shit!!! +1 for you buddy..
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: zebrastripes437 on July 01, 2013, 09:14 am
Guys you need to calm down. The people that oppose the Silk Road (LE) already know everything about it. There is nothing wrong with telling half of Australia about it, if anything it will help the site grow.

You are not some privileged bunch of people that this is exclusive to, this site is for everyone and anybody could've found out that information for themselves.

Honestly I am so sick of the whole "keep silkroad a secret" attitude. Yeah he's a dog for saying shit about it for money but he wasn't saying anything new or confidential.
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: p1klz on July 01, 2013, 09:28 am
Sorry man I'm not the argumentative type but Sr doesn't need any kind of public relations and it's not a matter of "keeping SR secret" it's a matter of the security over-hauls that all this publicity is going to bring with it. It may not happen now but it will happen. My main concern resulting from this is not an increase in people using SR, I couldn't give a shit about that. What I do care about however is not just Customs but Australia Post completely over-hauling the way the identify and search suspect packages and pretty soon we won't even be able to depend on domestic packages making it.

Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: astor on July 01, 2013, 09:34 am
If your security depends on the indifference of your adversary, you're already screwed.
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: zebrastripes437 on July 01, 2013, 09:36 am
I highly doubt all the post offices knew nothing about it until this special came on.
It does not change a single thing at all.
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: zebrastripes437 on July 01, 2013, 09:38 am
If your security depends on the indifference of your adversary, you're already screwed.

This guy is onto it. I would +1 you but not enough posts :(
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: p1klz on July 01, 2013, 09:39 am
I hope you're right zebrastripes..
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: onezero32 on July 01, 2013, 09:42 am
You aussies sure are a clever lot.
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: BlazinBro on July 01, 2013, 09:48 am
i wouldnt sweat it as long as you are taking proper security measures.Its not like Aus post etc haven't known about it for ages.Its been all over the media worldwide the last few months.It was only a matter of time.

Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on July 01, 2013, 09:50 am
If your security depends on the indifference of your adversary, you're already screwed.

^^^ This
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: HarmReduction on July 01, 2013, 10:07 am
This guy has spoken before in 2012  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-05/dark-internet-linked-to-drug-seizure-spike/4410872
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: GregoryIssacs on July 01, 2013, 10:53 am
Would not the expansion of customers and vendors be welcomed ?  More business ???   Is this why Atlantis has risen???   

The dude totally screwed up snitching on himself, or maybe they were already on to him and just wanted him to do the "walk of shame" with the interview.  What the broadcast did was solidify the fact that SR is pretty solid.  (20/20 packages made it through!!!)  Then they interview the vendor, which is really funny how the edited his voice. (squeeky chipmunk voice;  "business is good you'know,)   Now that guy was running a real risk.  From my understanding, state side, reporters and their camera crews, and sometimes their sponsor can get in a lot of trouble if they don't reveal their C.I. for the interview, and can be charged with aiding and abiding.  This has happened before, when reporters go into cities showing junkies shooting up, shoplifting, scoring or distributing on film, etc.   
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: foxen624 on July 01, 2013, 11:00 am
SR is not a secret...  probably hasn't been since the beginning or near it.  But unfortunately because of those who started and perpetuate the WOD, it certainly doesn't need any more publicity than it already has... publicity that it never would have had in the first place if it wasn't for people who for whatever reason seem to think that whatever they may or may not stand to gain by potentially screwing up the lives of one or more people that they probably don't even know.

People need to mind their own business...

There is no lower life form than a snitch or equivalent...
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: p1klz on July 01, 2013, 11:08 am
WOD?
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: Joosy on July 01, 2013, 11:09 am
If your security depends on the indifference of your adversary, you're already screwed.

The effectiveness of police and customs in the enforcement of drug laws is 95% dependent on resource allocation, for example Australia pumps a greater amount of resources into our customs making them one of the toughest countries in the world to import drugs. Media reports like this only damage us, encouraging the already ignorant viewers of those shows to blindly then ask that something be done because 'THINK OF THE CHILDREN', resulting in a knee jerk reaction to add further funding of customs and making it fucking that much harder for me to import some fucking banned molecule that I as an adult living in a supposed 'free country' choose to ingest.

Who is this little cunt anyway, I would love if someone could pull up his dox so a little lesson could be taught to this half-wit.
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: p1klz on July 01, 2013, 11:21 am
If your security depends on the indifference of your adversary, you're already screwed.

The effectiveness of police and customs in the enforcement of drug laws is 95% dependent on resource allocation, for example Australia pumps a greater amount of resources into our customs making them one of the toughest countries in the world to import drugs. Media reports like this only damage us, encouraging the already ignorant viewers of those shows to blindly then ask that something be done because 'THINK OF THE CHILDREN', resulting in a knee jerk reaction to add further funding of customs and making it fucking that much harder for me to import some fucking banned molecule that I as an adult living in a supposed 'free country' choose to ingest.

Who is this little cunt anyway, I would love if someone could pull up his dox from his court case so a little lesson could be taught to this half-wit.

Thank you!! That's entirely the basis of what I was saying. That's a +1 for you there mate. People are missing my point entirely with this "more customers isn't a bad thing" mentality. If you don't think this is going to change a damn thing than you're being quite daft. As I said I couldn't give a shit about more Australians using SR or the whole "SR should be kept secret" thing for that matter. What I do care about is whether or not I'll be able to get my orders through in year or two's time.

And this guy deserves to catch a massive beating!! What a fucking butt-plug.
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: HarmReduction on July 01, 2013, 11:27 am
SR is not a secret...  probably hasn't been since the beginning or near it.  But unfortunately because of those who started and perpetuate the WOD, it certainly doesn't need any more publicity than it already has... publicity that it never would have had in the first place if it wasn't for people who for whatever reason seem to think that whatever they may or may not stand to gain by potentially screwing up the lives of one or more people that they probably don't even know.

People need to mind their own business...

There is no lower life form than a snitch or equivalent...

Silk Road is everywhere there is Silk Road Facebook page and even a twitter account ( not saying that this has been set up by DPR) however the publicity is out there

What really infuriates me is that the media can not or have not distinguished the difference between Silk Road and the Tor browser so many articles insinuate that SR is linked with Child Porn, Gun running etc

The forum on SR adds value to the knowledge of drug use and the community ( well most people on here ) are intelligent and informed individuals who share their knowledge with others and who do reduce the harm to newbies who ask questions - and WOW  :o people even ask about reduction plans this side never gets aired SR is a community its not all about selling 'illicit' substances. The research I have done which is under review will I hope show this side .

By the way any vendors reading this I am doing a study on vendors see the link just need 3  more  ;)
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: Lorimer on July 01, 2013, 11:30 am
If your security depends on the indifference of your adversary, you're already screwed.

Like zebrastripes I wish I could +1.

There's nothing new in the article or interview - Ryan West has talked to the press before - and certainly nothing in it that the LE that matter don't already know. All that story will do is bring in more buyers.

(But - I do not get why anyone would talk to the media about the site. It's risky & unnecessary & whatever fame-thrill you might get can't possibly be worth the exposure.)

 
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: Railgun on July 01, 2013, 02:50 pm
More publicity will definitely lead to heightened surveillance simply because every time it's shown, it will stir up dissidents. The more dedicated dissidents one has, the more money they can allocate to the cause. 

Whoever DPR is, congrats, you got a bitch a PhD lol
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: Jack N Hoff on July 01, 2013, 04:54 pm
I thought Silk Road was already public knowledge?  It's been in the media a lot already.  It's not a secret or anything.
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: Dickens018 on July 01, 2013, 05:31 pm
Dudes, shut  the fuck up any implied threats. I know we are all pissed that this guy was stupid, got busted and is now being rewarded for being such a poor excuse for a human being and spilling his guts about SR, but I doubt that he told LE anything they did not know. However, you can figure every reporter in Australia will be scanning these articles, and will quote the most sensational thing they can find.  SR does not Kneecap anybody, that's what makes it different.  and was probably the I don't think DPR  The first time real violence is traced to SR,  we will see real attacks on the site.

I think big danger now is that kids that will be encouraged to enter our community,  and I feel we should try to screen them out somehow.  I know it can't be perfect,  but perhaps we should try to screen prospects by requiring the knowledge in areas such as drug effects, dosage, security and PGP.  One could argue that such knowledge is essential to safety at SR.  I'll  probably be flamed, but I really don't think kids <18  should do drugs,  not that it will stop them. 

If we must get publicity,  at least let's show the fallacy of the argument that Drugs == Violence.
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: ReD EyE on July 01, 2013, 05:37 pm
notice in that video they was logging onto a phishing page. classic lmfao
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: Lorimer on July 01, 2013, 07:40 pm
notice in that video they was logging onto a phishing page. classic lmfao

That was the registration page, not the login one. If you follow the 'click here to join' link you'll get the same thing.
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: BenzoFairy on July 01, 2013, 08:22 pm
I really hope you aren't under the impression that LE doesn't know how to use this site....
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: foxen624 on July 02, 2013, 08:11 am
SR is not a secret...  probably hasn't been since the beginning or near it.  But unfortunately because of those who started and perpetuate the WOD, it certainly doesn't need any more publicity than it already has... publicity that it never would have had in the first place if it wasn't for people who for whatever reason seem to think that whatever they may or may not stand to gain by potentially screwing up the lives of one or more people that they probably don't even know.

People need to mind their own business...

There is no lower life form than a snitch or equivalent...

Silk Road is everywhere there is Silk Road Facebook page and even a twitter account ( not saying that this has been set up by DPR) however the publicity is out there

What really infuriates me is that the media can not or have not distinguished the difference between Silk Road and the Tor browser so many articles insinuate that SR is linked with Child Porn, Gun running etc

The forum on SR adds value to the knowledge of drug use and the community ( well most people on here ) are intelligent and informed individuals who share their knowledge with others and who do reduce the harm to newbies who ask questions - and WOW  :o people even ask about reduction plans this side never gets aired SR is a community its not all about selling 'illicit' substances. The research I have done which is under review will I hope show this side .

By the way any vendors reading this I am doing a study on vendors see the link just need 3  more  ;)

You are so right!  The same old "a drug is a drug is a drug" mentality that assumes that "TOR and/or SR" = drug pushers, illegal guns sold to deranged school shooters, hackers, child porn, and everything else terrible.  And that is infuriating because it's simply not true...  those who are here know that there's some ugly shit down here, but not on SR in particular....  and that SR flat out doesn't even allow most of the ugly shit anyway.

Educating kids...  everyone really, about the truth of how different drugs affect people differently and etc, etc...  would really be a whole lot safer, healthier and lead to much wiser decisions than flat out refusing to see beyond the idea that it's all "bad" and must be avoided and gotten rid of.  As well as it wouldn't be a bad idea for people to investigate things for themselves rather than blindly believe whatever the mainstream media tells them, as SR truly IS a Community - with about the same ratio of good, kind and caring people and various asshole types as any other community anywhere else.  People are people, no matter where they gather...

I'd love to read your study when I get a chance.  If it's like you make it sound, I hope you can get it some good publicity and just maybe it might help start the right kind of convo...  never know ;)
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: foxen624 on July 02, 2013, 08:34 am
I really hope you aren't under the impression that LE doesn't know how to use this site....

I don't suppose many people think that... surely LE knows all about how to use this site.. and the dynamics of it probably frustrate the hell out of them ;)
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: silo on July 02, 2013, 08:48 am
still what a douche
first rule of fight club


broken
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: kurtcob1 on July 02, 2013, 09:18 am
Hi SR´s!!

Agree with some of the "above´s", Sr doesn´t need ANY publicity!
The more ppl know about it, the more possible is it (for customs, etc) to get more financial power to fight against SR ("we must close it to save our children").
If it is loud about our community, much more ppl get knowledge about it, and how many
"wannabe - policeman" are out there...

I wouldn´t like if someone observes me checking the letterbox, only cause I´m looking a little "hippielike"!
Particularly if u use another ones letterbox!

...so happy that I´m not living in Aus!!!
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: monicabarratt on July 03, 2013, 12:39 am
Whoever DPR is, congrats, you got a bitch a PhD lol

(Finally over 50 posts so can contribute)

This was one of the inaccuracies of the report. If I'd done my PhD on SR, it would have been a quick PhD! Actually, they tend to take a little longer than 2 years. My PhD was about drugs and the internet more generally, and because I did the data collection in 2007-08, it was about online forums where drugs are discussed. My PhD goes into how forums assist with harm reduction and how communities are created online that can affect people's drug use and harms too.

My take on the Today Tonight report - they asked me to contribute. I was going to decline, but figured they would go ahead with or without me, and it would probably be better with me. I spoke about the harm reduction aspects of SR community - e.g. reduced chance of violence when not having to associate directly with street markets to buy drugs. Of course the two quotes they chose weren't really that interesting to me... but that's how these things go.

For those who aren't in Australia, Today Tonight is notoriously sensationalist. So I was actually a little surprised that they presented a mainly factual report - it could have been a lot worse.

As for the debate in this thread and elsewhere across the forums about drawing attention to SR, from my discussions with LE at conferences and the like, I can assure you that Australia's federal police and customs are working very hard to combat SR. I don't think these reports will make any difference to those efforts or the funding they have access to. But I do think it's likely they will increase general awareness by potential new buyers and vendors in Australia.

If your security depends on the indifference of your adversary, you're already screwed.

This quote sums it up to me. I guess, though, in Australia, it is likely that we have a higher rate of detection of packages/letters at the border - BUT if more and more people in Australia order products (anything) from overseas, there will be more and more letters and parcels. The rate of detection is based on the total number of parcels coming in. So, in some ways, if these reports massively increase the number of importers, the chances of any one individual being detected (all other things like packaging and source country being equal) would decrease.

Like all things, it's a balance between increased efforts/finances pushed into detection, versus the increasing size of the market, and therefore increased spread of the risk.

Then there's just 3D printing, which will change everything once we can jailbreak our new 3D printer, download the template and create any drug we want. ;)
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: monicabarratt on July 03, 2013, 01:33 am
I don't really hold a strong opinion on Ryan West. But I'm not sure why everyone hates him so much. To me, he was an idiot, for sure - why would you intentionally be careless so police could catch you drug dealing? Seems pretty lame to me. But when you actually listen to what he says about SR, he doesn't blame SR for him being caught and basically says that if you follow the rules and are careful, you are unlikely to get caught. This seems a reasonable statement to make.

Maybe I'm missing something ;)
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: Countdown2013 on July 03, 2013, 01:43 am
Its bad for bitcoins legitimacy but it will likely give vendors more business which is good , they can choose to go stealth mode if it gets too much.

Recently with the atlantis black market doing that clearnet advert + SR being in the news I think SR will be getting much more attention from customers and enemies of the road , possibly make it harder to buy bitcoins?


I think it will create a boom period for silkroad and help boost the postal system so postal workers don' get fired!
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: SOUTHPAW on July 03, 2013, 03:42 am
If your security depends on the indifference of your adversary, you're already screwed.


(But - I do not get why anyone would talk to the media about the site. It's risky & unnecessary & whatever fame-thrill you might get can't possibly be worth the exposure.)


I would believe that they will be actors at first, then?
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: m1ddle on July 03, 2013, 11:42 am
I really hope you aren't under the impression that LE doesn't know how to use this site....

*waves to the police watching*

Go and get yourselves a donut, you deserve a good KrispyKreme for watching over us SilkRoad lot.
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: m1ddle on July 03, 2013, 12:52 pm
Like DPR said, we shouldn't reduce ourselves to their level and goad them into coming for us but reason with them and make them see the errors of their ways and what they are doing is killing people not saving them as they like to believe.
...
It's unfortunate that 95 percent of cops give the other 5 percent a bad name!  ::)

If you want cops giving themselves a bad name, this story only hit the news today:

"Cops arrest California man for filming them and then kill his dog (with video)" - http://rt.com/usa/california-police-kill-dog-557/

The story was this guy was being a douche and filming a pair of cops on his camera phone from a short distance away. So they walk over and arrest him. His dog jumps out of his car and barks at the cops (fair response from the dog), so a LAPD officer loads 4 bullets into the dog. It whimpers in pain then dies. Infront of bystanders, the owner, everyone. Someone got it on video.

Sure it was only an American cop, not an Australian cop, but they're not the group you need to convince. It's the general public, then the lawmakers.
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: p1klz on July 03, 2013, 12:57 pm
still what a douche
first rule of fight club


broken

Yep! Great choice of phrasing there man, a very appropriate example if you ask me!! +1 for you buddy..  ;)
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: p1klz on July 03, 2013, 01:57 pm
Like DPR said, we shouldn't reduce ourselves to their level and goad them into coming for us but reason with them and make them see the errors of their ways and what they are doing is killing people not saving them as they like to believe.
...
It's unfortunate that 95 percent of cops give the other 5 percent a bad name!  ::)

If you want cops giving themselves a bad name, this story only hit the news today:

"Cops arrest California man for filming them and then kill his dog (with video)" - http://rt.com/usa/california-police-kill-dog-557/

The story was this guy was being a douche and filming a pair of cops on his camera phone from a short distance away. So they walk over and arrest him. His dog jumps out of his car and barks at the cops (fair response from the dog), so a LAPD officer loads 4 bullets into the dog. It whimpers in pain then dies. Infront of bystanders, the owner, everyone. Someone got it on video.

Sure it was only an American cop, not an Australian cop, but they're not the group you need to convince. It's the general public, then the lawmakers.

Ok as somebody who not only owns a dog but I love my dog just as much as I love any member of my family I've got to say that that's just fucked up yo!! Seriously, I bet this fucking cop had a tazer he could have used instead of his gun. That cunt of a cop should have been put down instead of the fucking dog!! What an asshole!!
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: halfbaked on July 03, 2013, 02:51 pm
Like DPR said, we shouldn't reduce ourselves to their level and goad them into coming for us but reason with them and make them see the errors of their ways and what they are doing is killing people not saving them as they like to believe.
...
It's unfortunate that 95 percent of cops give the other 5 percent a bad name!  ::)

If you want cops giving themselves a bad name, this story only hit the news today:

"Cops arrest California man for filming them and then kill his dog (with video)" - http://rt.com/usa/california-police-kill-dog-557/

The story was this guy was being a douche and filming a pair of cops on his camera phone from a short distance away. So they walk over and arrest him. His dog jumps out of his car and barks at the cops (fair response from the dog), so a LAPD officer loads 4 bullets into the dog. It whimpers in pain then dies. Infront of bystanders, the owner, everyone. Someone got it on video.

Sure it was only an American cop, not an Australian cop, but they're not the group you need to convince. It's the general public, then the lawmakers.

Have you seen Adam Kokesh Arrested At Jefferson Memorial?

Like I said, it's sad the 95 percent of fuckwits give the other 5 percent a bad name!

But look at www.leap.cc and Mick Palmer (former Commissioner Of The AFP) it's them we need to show their collegues the light then they can demand change from the lawmakers who as we know, we don't really vote in!

JWM THE BLOW ARSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

So you badmouthed me in one post then ran like a bitch and blocked my reply....and you think for one second I would let you  get away with that? Hahaha! Such a loser mate get a life!!!

Anyway since you seem to want to attack people on the forum then run like a bitch....I created a special post just for you :)

If you are man enough to right negative comments about a person (especially me) that has not attacked you in anyway then you should at least be man enough to allow them to reply but instead you choose to be a little bitch!

Special post JUST for you mate and anyone else that has had a similar experience with this loser be free to comment on your experience!

"Lets start a trend with the JWM Bullshit thread"

Thread below:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=178468.msg1287436#msg1287436

Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: makingmoneyy on July 04, 2013, 06:44 am
Whoever did that is really big jerk all there posts are exactly the same naming people :(
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: m1ddle on July 04, 2013, 12:04 pm
Ok as somebody who not only owns a dog but I love my dog just as much as I love any member of my family I've got to say that that's just fucked up yo!! Seriously, I bet this fucking cop had a tazer he could have used instead of his gun. That cunt of a cop should have been put down instead of the fucking dog!! What an asshole!!

It's a really hard video to watch, it really is a cunt of an act :(

(are we allowed to swear on here?)
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: monicabarratt on July 05, 2013, 02:28 am
Ryan West is a turd in a punch bowl and DPR and the rest of us have created this lovely environment of freedom and this little LE gopher rocks in and shits all over everything and makes us all look like fucking idiots.

We need to start building bridges and showing them we are not all retarded sadistic murdering raping psychopaths who peddle drugs to children but people just like them who want to live in a safe world and most drug users would be the first to stick their hands up and help someone out...

(quoted from this thread and another one)

Thanks for clarifying your strong opinions on Ryan West.

IMO anyone with a little common sense will get that the successful members of the SR community aren't going to be much like the ones that get caught. But of course, most of the public don't think this way and might think West represents everyone who uses SR. So, you're angry that you are being 'represented' by West, when you want to be represented as intelligent, thoughtful, concerned, community-minded, etc.

This is one of the things that research I've led or contributed to can do - it can represent drug users in a better light and it can open up public debates, breaking some stereotypes among people who are prepared to reconsider their views on drugs. It could be a way to achieve what you aspire to -- at least to contribute to trends in social change. Here's a clearnet link to one such story i contributed to: http://www.smh.com.au/national/the-drug-habits-of-highly-effective-people-20130315-2g5rk.html (though some of the comments about SR are incorrect... often the case unfortunately!)

Regarding my PhD and your comments JWM, I never suggested I'm better than anyone else just because of what I do for a living. You guys are the experts in SR. But what I can do is talk about drugs, drug use, and break stereotypes publicly. I can do that because I can talk from the perspective of a researcher in the field without having to explicitly draw on my own experiences. It can be a useful tool in this debate where most drug users are not able to use their own voices to stick up for their rights and concerns, due to the very real fear of revealing their identity.

Anyway, for others who may be reading, I am very searchable: you can check for my credibility for yourself. Under real name, Monica Barratt, and under Tronica, my Bluelight forum name.
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: OzFreelancer on July 05, 2013, 02:45 am
Ryan West is a turd in a punch bowl and DPR and the rest of us have created this lovely environment of freedom and this little LE gopher rocks in and shits all over everything and makes us all look like fucking idiots.

We need to start building bridges and showing them we are not all retarded sadistic murdering raping psychopaths who peddle drugs to children but people just like them who want to live in a safe world and most drug users would be the first to stick their hands up and help someone out...

(quoted from this thread and another one)

Thanks for clarifying your strong opinions on Ryan West.

IMO anyone with a little common sense will get that the successful members of the SR community aren't going to be much like the ones that get caught. But of course, most of the public don't think this way and might think West represents everyone who uses SR. So, you're angry that you are being 'represented' by West, when you want to be represented as intelligent, thoughtful, concerned, community-minded, etc.

This is one of the things that research I've led or contributed to can do - it can represent drug users in a better light and it can open up public debates, breaking some stereotypes among people who are prepared to reconsider their views on drugs. It could be a way to achieve what you aspire to -- at least to contribute to trends in social change. Here's a clearnet link to one such story i contributed to: http://www.smh.com.au/national/the-drug-habits-of-highly-effective-people-20130315-2g5rk.html (though some of the comments about SR are incorrect... often the case unfortunately!)

Regarding my PhD and your comments JWM, I never suggested I'm better than anyone else just because of what I do for a living. You guys are the experts in SR. But what I can do is talk about drugs, drug use, and break stereotypes publicly. I can do that because I can talk from the perspective of a researcher in the field without having to explicitly draw on my own experiences. It can be a useful tool in this debate where most drug users are not able to use their own voices to stick up for their rights and concerns, due to the very real fear of revealing their identity.

Anyway, for others who may be reading, I am very searchable: you can check for my credibility for yourself. Under real name, Monica Barratt, and under Tronica, my Bluelight forum name.

Ryan West is a step up from the previous Australian 'face' of Silk Road, Adam Freelance. :/

Monica is the epitome of who you want discussing Silk Road in the media.  Intelligent, knowledgeable, unhysterical, unbiased and quite the looker.  +1 because she is awesome. :)
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: Railgun on July 05, 2013, 07:45 pm
Whoever DPR is, congrats, you got a bitch a PhD lol

(Finally over 50 posts so can contribute)

This was one of the inaccuracies of the report. If I'd done my PhD on SR, it would have been a quick PhD! Actually, they tend to take a little longer than 2 years. My PhD was about drugs and the internet more generally, and because I did the data collection in 2007-08, it was about online forums where drugs are discussed. My PhD goes into how forums assist with harm reduction and how communities are created online that can affect people's drug use and harms too.

My take on the Today Tonight report - they asked me to contribute. I was going to decline, but figured they would go ahead with or without me, and it would probably be better with me. I spoke about the harm reduction aspects of SR community - e.g. reduced chance of violence when not having to associate directly with street markets to buy drugs. Of course the two quotes they chose weren't really that interesting to me... but that's how these things go.

For those who aren't in Australia, Today Tonight is notoriously sensationalist. So I was actually a little surprised that they presented a mainly factual report - it could have been a lot worse.

As for the debate in this thread and elsewhere across the forums about drawing attention to SR, from my discussions with LE at conferences and the like, I can assure you that Australia's federal police and customs are working very hard to combat SR. I don't think these reports will make any difference to those efforts or the funding they have access to. But I do think it's likely they will increase general awareness by potential new buyers and vendors in Australia.

If your security depends on the indifference of your adversary, you're already screwed.

This quote sums it up to me. I guess, though, in Australia, it is likely that we have a higher rate of detection of packages/letters at the border - BUT if more and more people in Australia order products (anything) from overseas, there will be more and more letters and parcels. The rate of detection is based on the total number of parcels coming in. So, in some ways, if these reports massively increase the number of importers, the chances of any one individual being detected (all other things like packaging and source country being equal) would decrease.

Like all things, it's a balance between increased efforts/finances pushed into detection, versus the increasing size of the market, and therefore increased spread of the risk.

Then there's just 3D printing, which will change everything once we can jailbreak our new 3D printer, download the template and create any drug we want. ;)

You can thank me for that amazing entrance :)


No less, I would imagine that with a PhD thesis based in such a specialized field, it would be highly underutilized until a market as popular and thriving as Silk Road were to show up.  So to that effect, it did kind "get you your PhD," perhaps solely in a more known way. I'm sure it makes your research far more relevant.

I'm somewhat leery of the journalists and researches that claim to be here. While I can totally imagine impartiality and, well, generally not knowing who the fuck we are anyway, what real positive can you have on being here and mining?  The only claim is that your PhDship (openly) has more credit than us drug users, which is correct. But who is the real benefactor: these markets or your research's relevance?
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: duffzilla on July 05, 2013, 11:59 pm
The piece didn't really have a negative spin to it. It was a lot less convoluted than most SR pieces.

What i can't believe is that a woman basically got her PHD on SR lol
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: zebrastripes437 on July 06, 2013, 04:34 pm
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/search.php?searchid=1431533

If anyones interested thats ryans west bluelight user account post list, you need to be signed into bluelight to see it though.
Apparently he didn't even get payed for the interview. what a toss.
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: mbius298074 on July 07, 2013, 05:53 am
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/search.php?searchid=1431533

If anyones interested thats ryans west bluelight user account post list, you need to be signed into bluelight to see it though.
Apparently he didn't even get payed for the interview. what a toss.

It seems the search is no longer valid. Can you PM me his user account to look up?
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: InbetweenWaves on July 07, 2013, 01:29 pm
I don't think its of concern. They can't turn off the dark web. It's here to stay.
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: Jack N Hoff on July 07, 2013, 04:40 pm
I don't think its of concern. They can't turn off the dark web. It's here to stay.

Technically they can.  Look at China.  Deep packet inspection.  Then we try with private bridges.  Then they block the bridges pretty much instantly.  Out government needs TOR though and they need to have lots of relays and nodes.
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: mbius298074 on July 08, 2013, 01:52 am
I don't think its of concern. They can't turn off the dark web. It's here to stay.

Technically they can.  Look at China.  Deep packet inspection.  Then we try with private bridges.  Then they block the bridges pretty much instantly.  Out government needs TOR though and they need to have lots of relays and nodes.

New bridges are going to mimic ssh connections. Will be interesting to see how they block those consistently.
Title: Re: Australia - Channel 7 News - Today Tonight - SR Customer INTERVIEWED
Post by: halfbaked on July 08, 2013, 12:51 pm
Like DPR said, we shouldn't reduce ourselves to their level and goad them into coming for us but reason with them and make them see the errors of their ways and what they are doing is killing people not saving them as they like to believe.
...
It's unfortunate that 95 percent of cops give the other 5 percent a bad name!  ::)

If you want cops giving themselves a bad name, this story only hit the news today:

"Cops arrest California man for filming them and then kill his dog (with video)" - http://rt.com/usa/california-police-kill-dog-557/

The story was this guy was being a douche and filming a pair of cops on his camera phone from a short distance away. So they walk over and arrest him. His dog jumps out of his car and barks at the cops (fair response from the dog), so a LAPD officer loads 4 bullets into the dog. It whimpers in pain then dies. Infront of bystanders, the owner, everyone. Someone got it on video.

Sure it was only an American cop, not an Australian cop, but they're not the group you need to convince. It's the general public, then the lawmakers.

Have you seen Adam Kokesh Arrested At Jefferson Memorial?

Like I said, it's sad the 95 percent of fuckwits give the other 5 percent a bad name!

But look at www.leap.cc and Mick Palmer (former Commissioner Of The AFP) it's them we need to show their collegues the light then they can demand change from the lawmakers who as we know, we don't really vote in!

JWM THE BLOW ARSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

So you badmouthed me in one post then ran like a bitch and blocked my reply....and you think for one second I would let you  get away with that? Hahaha! Such a loser mate get a life!!!

Anyway since you seem to want to attack people on the forum then run like a bitch....I created a special post just for you :)

If you are man enough to right negative comments about a person (especially me) that has not attacked you in anyway then you should at least be man enough to allow them to reply but instead you choose to be a little bitch!

Special post JUST for you mate and anyone else that has had a similar experience with this loser be free to comment on your experience!

"Lets start a trend with the JWM Bullshit thread"

Thread below:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=178468.msg1287436#msg1287436

WOW... I never even saw your reply but it seems the truth hurts eh mate?

$400 an ounce for substandard shitty weed (assuming it's still the same old shit you've always sold) and you call me a loser?

Does it still take two weeks for you to deliver via Express Post?

That's rich mate... seriously! Have you been on that meth you sell to come out with such a profoundly stupid rambling rant?

I'm blown away you couldn't just PM me and direct me to whatever issue you had and ordinarily I would apologize for not having seen the whatever the fuck it is you are referring to and responded but I will go and check it out now and respond accordingly, when I could be bothered as I am tired and don't have time to apply to a gronk like you who trolls people on a thread to announce to the world he's so psychotic and embarrassed someone called him out that he went and made a thread dedicated tot hat person.

I never attacked you, I simply stated it how it is and I always treated you with respect FE for you every time expecting filth and never getting what was promised that I should have disputed but I didn't and IMO, you're no better than Dingo Fucked My Bugs asking $400 an ounce and the other fucking bullshit prices you ask for people but hey whatever you get off meth heads good on you they're all used to paying ridiculous prices for worthless shit, maybe that's why you think the same thing can apply to weed I don't know.

Obviously that weeds not working too well for you because you got serious aggression issues as is readily apparent here, and if you had have had a cone perhaps you may not have come off as such a complete nutcase babbling about shit that nobody here knows what you're talking about.

You made a thread just for me  ;D I feel so flattered and honored you would be so crazy as to do such a thing I'll have to go there and visit... tomorrow.

If you can't take constructive criticism you have no place running a business and everyone knows you're a joke with those prices but as for running like a bitch... in case you hadn't realised, we aren't in a physical environment where I can run anywhere and when it comes to intellectual combat, you are not even close to me and I will burn you every time like Scorpion performing a Fatality.

Stop using your "smokable speed" and stop being a scamming cunt with prices that are so outrageous anyone buying them must either be desperate or a child, both of which I'm sure you have no problem selling to and probably do on a weekly or daily basis, but you wouldn't dare look someone in the fact IRL and ask them for $400 for an ounce of the type of weed you peddle.

I think you yourself are probably in your early twenties with small man syndrome hence the bizarre reaction here instead of just PMing me and directing me to whatever your little problem is.

Now, if you'll excuse me I'm about to have a cone of some absolute filthy dank turd nuggets of doom that I paid $250 and ounce for singles that if I were going by your prices you would be charging about $600 since the $400 is going to be similar to the description of the types of weed I got sick of buying and this shit I would take to Amsterdam with pride.

I bought from you once because you had a picture off somewhere else but it wasn't the weed you sold claiming to be "hydro buds" but was some bushy, semi wet and heavy as fuck meaning there was fuck all there to smoke and equaled about half the content of the shit I've got in front of me by the time I dried it out. To be fair, for bushy shit and the fact it didn't smoke that great, it wasn't tooo bad when it got you stoned.

I would like to say first of all that at these times, his weed was a respectable price, around $250 an ounce as it should be.

So next order, it wasn't too bad but very very average and by no means medical grade and more like chemically laced and cerebral induced stone but after using a Breville Coffee & Spice grinder to fluff it out managed to get something respectable out of.

The next few times were just this ridiculously horrid, stemmy, wet and worthless super vac sealed weed.

The final time was inside a DVD case since I'm assuming yours was slightly better than what I ordered off 1StopOz for curiosity since he had decent prices and good looking buds that were beyond terrible... way way way beyond terrible and unlike HB it came the next day and his was a week later so I assume I'm correct.

It was this really bright green harsh as fuck, spindly barely mature crap and was evidently horseshit because I stopped buying off you after that or anyone on Silk Road because there's nobody on here selling anything decent and compared to the rest of the world we are a fucking embarrassment.

I seriously considered buying 15lbs and going to town and destroying your "business" and every other cunt on here's poor excuse for weed and prices and show people what really constitutes good weed at respectable prices and I just may.

So keep pushing my buttons sunshine and find yourself out of business through supply an demand and when I flood the market with good cheap dope what the fuck are you going to do then when you're probably just some shit cunt buying 4 oz's at a time for around $1150, getting scammed yourself, then turning around and doing the same thing to others and thinking your big time when in fact I laugh at you and those like you... fucking popcorn gangsters!

Is that the reply you expected, if you had have contacted me I may have been much more cordial but like I said, clearly the truth hurts!

Have a nice weekend, or what's left of it won't you?

Oh and one more thing, naming yourself after a mediocre movie that the star of the movie was ashamed to make and is aimed at 16yr old's shows much more about your personality and age than you realise but then again, half baked is all you'll get off your weed because fell baked you need some filthy stinky dank nuggets like I have here instead.

Enjoy your shitty existence and anyone buying shit off you needs a brain transplant!

- JWM


lol.. I can't be fucked to read this rubbish.. all I am going to say is that I am one of many that have outed this bullshit artist and as you can see by his numerous posts attacking me... he is a tad mad.

I don't care about your emotional issues mate!

Kudos for you for wasting your time in writing a useless post about some pointless dribble that no one cares about.

Clap clap... Yawn.

*will copy my reply and paste on other posts attacking me....... Actually scrap that he has blocked from reply to the other posts... Typical bitch move by JWM.