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Discussion => Vendor Roundtable => Topic started by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on May 20, 2013, 03:40 am
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If you wish to add a buyer to the list, post it below and I will update the original post as soon as I see it.
Alphabetical list of blacklisted buyers:
0001962434
11aec
3luke3
789query
anon6372822
autumnleaves
badmangoodbadman
bailoutlawrider
blackpink55
blazing247in2013
blizzardlips
Cannancoke
chasechasechase
chronicpain
coastseleven
DamonSalvatore
dcypher01
Dodod2000
Dr Squidring
Element1
fg3999
filt3r
fluffybuds
Fractalatus
fredsneffle
frogbandit
funkyjunky
Gankytrio
Godthrilla
gw99453
gwrath
iamlife
itainteasybeingme
jakeandjack
Jizo893
jjcc4350
Jordz
L3tt0
lgood
losttheplot
mdmatt
medalon9012
Merch
messagemedium
missmadames
mrhelpeverybody
Mrp
mystuff
nick88
nc1069
ntreep
plotlost
poociggie
poppydog
potwombat
QualitySauces
retrice
riddikulus
RompaStompa
rycha1
saeamus
sketch66
sonic3000
sonosie300
SpaceCadet80
sprinkl0r
tiramolla
treadwater
trollywaffle809
unintrusive
vanvanvoo
wastedbronsy
yahtzee
Zellcorp
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Wastedbronsy - Ordered and left 1/5. Tried to talk to the buyer about what was wrong.
I just got repeatedly told to fuck off and they refused to co-operate.
Yahtzee - Ordered 28gm. Claimed they only received 7gm of dead, brown weed. It was a clear scam attempt and in order to verify this I asked them to take pictures of the product and packaging and email them to me. Buyer never responded. Left 1/5.
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Unless you are willing to continually update your OP this probably won't work if we trawl through all the replies to your post, if you are here are mine.
tiramolla (bad feedback saying my LSD was just paper but still left a 5/5). Wouldn't reply to my messages...
Dodod2000 (left me bad feedback and rating, no reply to messages to resolve even though I could see he read them, offered 100% refund)
Cannancoke (general phsyco, left me crap feedback at the start, was then my best friend but then proceeded to tell me my package was handed to LE for fingerprint analysis, don't deal with him, not worth the hassle)
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Of course not, he was just a unstable customer that isn't worth the hassle of dealing with. I actually stopped selling coke on Silk Road because of buyers like him, they seem to flock to Silk Road, on other vending forums not so much.
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Yea coke always gets mixed reviews. And meth seems to as well. Other drugs seem to have fairly consistent reviews.
Anyway I updated the original list.
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My 0.02 about yahtzee, which is from au, so I assume it is the same person.
My customer too, and I would classify him as a good customer.. Fe'd early, responsive, polite.
I understand, that everything is subjective, so... experiences may vary.
To be constructive- I am still fullfiling my order to this guy, so we keep communication open.
If you want, I can msg him, and ask what is that about, and right out whats wrong. Would that be suitable?
But from my experience- he never tried to scam me.
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My 0.02 about yahtzee, which is from au, so I assume it is the same person.
My customer too, and I would classify him as a good customer.. Fe'd early, responsive, polite.
I understand, that everything is subjective, so... experiences may vary.
To be constructive- I am still fullfiling my order to this guy, so we keep communication open.
If you want, I can msg him, and ask what is that about, and right out whats wrong. Would that be suitable?
But from my experience- he never tried to scam me.
Hey, I'd rather keep it private between me and yahtzee for now.
We're still discussing an order. I will PM you the details.
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Username : gw99453
He paid for the item, then claimed it never arrived. He hasn't responded to my attempts at contacting him or the offer of a refund (1 in 280 aint bad), and he's the soul reason my rating has dropped.
Comment left was "didnt arrive". 1/5.
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Was thinking about yahtzee
Guy ordered great ammount of stuff for such small vendor like me
Finalized, never gave badf review to.
However! Said one item was seized, which is probable, since it is big and likely to draw attention.
Never asked for seizure letter, I try to not be to stinky, and this is possible that item was seized.
Will reship item this week, but it IS possible that I've been scammed. A little bit.
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blazing247in2013 - trying to coerce me to do business outside of bitcoin/escrow
dcypher01 - claimed package wasnt delivered despite tracking saying so. immediately started to tell me it was intercepted by police, got paranoid cops were watching his account so he started another one. asked me the most secure way to communicate, i said pgp, he said he wasnt comfortable messaging through SR, i said it doesnt get any more secure than pgp. he continues to send me his address, unencrypted through SR msg. dont bother with this guy
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Username: retrice
Details: Ordered 1g of MDMA that arrived at his home, verified by domestic tracking. Buyer waited 12 days after receiving before putting the order into resolution without comment.
I responded with a zero percent resolution, including tracking numbers and proof of delivery, and buyer has asked for a 7 day extension, again without comment.
Obviously the buyer is dicking me around until he can actually try the product.
Verdict: Time waster that will keep your BTC in limbo for weeks.
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rycha1
messaged me today saying "hey mate, I didn't realise until a few days after i finalised my purchase but you only sent me half a gram..."
i havent sold half grams for months, obviously trying to scam free gear out of me
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Thanks for keeping this updated dingo... 8)
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0001962434 - This user repeatedly asks me to meet him "around St. Kilda" because express ain't fast enough. He was one of my first customers, and then started asking to meet IRL. Hasn't ordered since. Possible leo.
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"ntreep"
Waits over a week to finalise, no contact or attempted contact made at all. Then leaves 3/5 for "postage times" ::)
ordered: May 15, 2013, 7:15 am UTC
shipped: May 16, 2013, 1:06 am UTC
finalized: May 22, 2013, 8:08 am UTC
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username: iamlife
Purchased 2x LSD tabs, one the day after the other and were sent separately.
5/5 "tripped balls" on the first
3/5 "good" on the second.
Have not had a response from them as to why.
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Add Godthrilla
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Add chasechasechase. The guy is a grade A fuckhole who will do all he can to twist your arm into getting free drugs if he is not 100% satisfied...the first or second time around.
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Was thinking about yahtzee
Guy ordered great ammount of stuff for such small vendor like me
Finalized, never gave badf review to.
However! Said one item was seized, which is probable, since it is big and likely to draw attention.
Never asked for seizure letter, I try to not be to stinky, and this is possible that item was seized.
Will reship item this week, but it IS possible that I've been scammed. A little bit.
Hey Mate
That name definitely rings a bell and it sounds similar to a incident I had. Guys stated it was seized BUT tracking said otherwise.
I did not warrant a refund as tracking clearly stated he was full of shit BUT I can not remember if it was yahtzee BUT i do remember that name? hmmmm Any other vendors had issues with this guys?
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Was thinking about yahtzee
Guy ordered great ammount of stuff for such small vendor like me
Finalized, never gave badf review to.
However! Said one item was seized, which is probable, since it is big and likely to draw attention.
Never asked for seizure letter, I try to not be to stinky, and this is possible that item was seized.
Will reship item this week, but it IS possible that I've been scammed. A little bit.
Hey Mate
That name definitely rings a bell and it sounds similar to a incident I had. Guys stated it was seized BUT tracking said otherwise.
I did not warrant a refund as tracking clearly stated he was full of shit BUT I can not remember if it was yahtzee BUT i do remember that name? hmmmm Any other vendors had issues with this guys?
So you have had issues with yahtzee too?
See he ordered 28gm of weed off me, which was my biggest listing at the time. After 2 or 3 days he finalised the order but didn't leave feedback.
Got a PM the following day saying 7 grams of brown weed arrived and he wasn't happy and wanted a refund.
I replied, asking him to verify the order by sending a photo of the weed and packaging so I can see what it looks like.
They never responded.
About 3 weeks later they left a 1/5 saying "never arrived."
I PM'd the buyer and asked why they would finalise a domestic order if it never arrived.
They knew I was on to them and they wanted a reship but I told them I would only offer a reship if they purchase an item through my acount and I would refund it through the resolution centre. I have a feeling they try this with every vendor. They finalise first so it doesn't affect their buyer stats. His buyer stats were over $50,000 spent and 0% refund rate.
They ended up shying out of the situation and just left it be. I'm not going to be giving out $350 refunds that easily.
We should be able to report buyers so SR admins can investigate their past transactions and ban them if they have proven to be a scammer.
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Hi Vendors,
Here my list. I really appreciate this tread which will help us to get off buyers that they try all the ways to scum or threat us with the rates option
endlessboxes
jk4723
madarfunk
rach180
ssdmad
tino23
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two more
blondeboy
test22
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Good work dingo bout time we had one of these for aus domestic, I'v had my fair share of scammers try do there thing in my short time as a vendor as I'm sure most vendors do.
It is difficult to tell who is out to scam and who is genuine in an environment such as this unlike real life where you would know most ppl you sell too, here everyone is a stranger and every scammer seems genuine.
If you give in and don't take a strong stance against these scumbags you will attract them like flies to a turd.
I would def rather take a hard line and take a 1/5 fb and explain myself on my vendor page than reship/refund a low life.
I have a few names to add to the list who have claimed no shows, under weight, or just simply not come back to pay for the drugs they received a day after they ordered and let it a/f, I don't have the list right now but will update soon as I can.
My latest was a customer who claimed the gram was underweight which I know 100% it weighed a gram+ just like the other 10grams I prepacked at the same time, it would not be an isolated case but many would be under.
He was very unsure about an exact weight as he was going from the amount of caps he made up from the last gram he got???
Hey I read both the pages but couldn't find a post relating to DamonSalvatore, he has bought from me a number of times and has been a good customer, always come back fast to finalize his orders ect.
Maybe look into this a little more and remove him from the list if nothing is proven.
sorry if any vendors live in WA no offence but I'm sure every single problem customer I'v had has been from there, weather it's the same person using throw away accounts I don't know. Anyone else had many issues from the Perth area?
Anyways il be back with my list of Customers who you want to avoid, being street smart just ain't for the streets but also the Road :)
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If you wish to add a buyer to the list, post it below and I will update the original post as soon as I see it.
Alphabetical list of blacklisted buyers:
0001962434
blazing247in2013
blondeboy
Cannancoke
chasechasechase
DamonSalvatore
dcypher01
Dodod2000
endlessboxes
filt3r
fredsneffle
Godthrilla
gw99453
gwrath
iamlife
jk4723
madarfunk
missmadames
ntreep
rach180
retrice
rycha1
ssdmad
test22
tino23
tiramolla
treadwater
wastedbronsy
yahtzee
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Good work dingo bout time we had one of these for aus domestic, I'v had my fair share of scammers try do there thing in my short time as a vendor as I'm sure most vendors do.
It is difficult to tell who is out to scam and who is genuine in an environment such as this unlike real life where you would know most ppl you sell too, here everyone is a stranger and every scammer seems genuine.
If you give in and don't take a strong stance against these scumbags you will attract them like flies to a turd.
I would def rather take a hard line and take a 1/5 fb and explain myself on my vendor page than reship/refund a low life.
I have a few names to add to the list who have claimed no shows, under weight, or just simply not come back to pay for the drugs they received a day after they ordered and let it a/f, I don't have the list right now but will update soon as I can.
My latest was a customer who claimed the gram was underweight which I know 100% it weighed a gram+ just like the other 10grams I prepacked at the same time, it would not be an isolated case but many would be under.
He was very unsure about an exact weight as he was going from the amount of caps he made up from the last gram he got???
Hey I read both the pages but couldn't find a post relating to DamonSalvatore, he has bought from me a number of times and has been a good customer, always come back fast to finalize his orders ect.
Maybe look into this a little more and remove him from the list if nothing is proven.
sorry if any vendors live in WA no offence but I'm sure every single problem customer I'v had has been from there, weather it's the same person using throw away accounts I don't know. Anyone else had many issues from the Perth area?
Anyways ill be back with my list of Customers who you want to avoid, being street smart just ain't for the streets but also the Road :)
Yea I thought this list was needed.
When you find the usernames just add them to the list and I'll update the list accordingly.
As for removing a user, I don't really think that's fair because then other vendors would be asking to remove buyers they have had no problem with.
A lot of scammers wouldn't scam every vendor or do whatever they do that got them on the blacklist to every vendor.
This list isn't a do not sell to list. It' more of a warning list so we can see potential problem buyers.
For example if I sold to someone on the blacklist and then they said it never arrived and I found them on the blacklist, it would help because we would know they have done this before and wouldn't be giving them a refund / reship.
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Not a blacklisting per se, but a very suspicious user that has messaged me and other vendors that I know.
The user name is jasonr92.
He keeps on asking for bulk amounts in crazy sizes (for Australia). Even after I reply to him in that it isn't possible, I hear from him again a week later asking the same thing as if he has forgotten that I have already replied to him or as if jasonr92 may not even be one person.
He has messaged me many times both here and on Atlantis.
Has anyone else had any messages from him?
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Not a blacklisting per se, but a very suspicious user that has messaged me and other vendors that I know.
The user name is jasonr92.
He keeps on asking for bulk amounts in crazy sizes (for Australia). Even after I reply to him in that it isn't possible, I hear from him again a week later asking the same thing as if he has forgotten that I have already replied to him or as if jasonr92 may not even be one person.
He has messaged me many times both here and on Atlantis.
Has anyone else had any messages from him?
I haven't got any messages, no.
I won't add them to the blacklist then.
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Not a blacklisting per se, but a very suspicious user that has messaged me and other vendors that I know.
The user name is jasonr92.
He keeps on asking for bulk amounts in crazy sizes (for Australia). Even after I reply to him in that it isn't possible, I hear from him again a week later asking the same thing as if he has forgotten that I have already replied to him or as if jasonr92 may not even be one person.
He has messaged me many times both here and on Atlantis.
Has anyone else had any messages from him?
Yea had msgs like this a number of times from different users but similar names, they all had numbers on the end and ask for bulk.
I always reply make couple orders built some trust then we can talk bulk.
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SEXYGIRLS IMPATIANT after an order didnt arrive next day
biggie11 Order sent QLD then claimed to live in WA
vestedinterest A/F
radiator47 A/F
boboxygen Claim under weight
I will leave reasons as it might be useful to others
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If you wish to add a buyer to the list, post it below and I will update the original post as soon as I see it.
Alphabetical list of blacklisted buyers:
0001962434
biggie11
blazing247in2013
boboxygen
Cannancoke
chasechasechase
DamonSalvatore
dcypher01
Dodod2000
filt3r
fredsneffle
Godthrilla
gw99453
gwrath
iamlife
missmadames
ntreep
radiator47
retrice
rycha1
SEXYGIRLS
tiramolla
treadwater
vestedinterest
wastedbronsy
yahtzee
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I would like to thank dingo for setting up this thread! It just saved me for potentially being scammed by a customer who placed an order with me and just before processing their order I realized they were on this black list.
Thanks again mate! ;)
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I would like to thank dingo for setting up this thread! It just saved me for potentially being scammed by a customer who placed an order with me and just before processing their order I realized they were on this black list.
Thanks again mate! ;)
Glad this thread is helping. Good to see it's being used as well.
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Not a blacklisting, but an unfair feedback warning.
User: Fractalatus
Ordered a mere 3 MDMA pills via express post envelope. Left 4/5 saying that I should be using a DVD case because an object is detectable within the envelope. The 'object' is the protective covering for the pills, and over that a moisture barrier bag. That an object is detectable within the envelope is unavoidable, and the envelope is packed within the parameters given by Australia Post. Of course the product was received safe and sound.
IIRC this guy had insignificant or no buyers stats.
I haven't bothered to negotiate with this buyer as 'negotiations' usually turn into blackmail or demands for 'compensation'. I did put up a message on my profile saying that less than 5/5 means I won't be doing business with that person in the future. Another action I took was to pull all my small listings. The small were just something I did to add value to smaller buyers. I won't be bothering with them anymore.
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riddikulus
Have a feeling this is a fellow vendor. Ordered nearly a month ago now left perfect feedback and just changed both to 1/5 tonight to drop me to 98%.
If anyone has had any 'contact' with this purchaser please let me know.
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riddikulus
Have a feeling this is a fellow vendor. Ordered nearly a month ago now left perfect feedback and just changed both to 1/5 tonight to drop me to 98%.
If anyone has had any 'contact' with this purchaser please let me know.
Gotta hate when that happens.
Dos anyone else get a RIDICULOUS amount of AF's?
I seem to constantly have orders auto-finalising. It's very frustrating sitting there waiting for the days to go by waiting for $350 orders to clear payment...
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Probably the wrong place to put it but has anyone been getting a shit tonne of buyers who are extremely new as of late? PM me if you don't want to say on the forums.
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Probably the wrong place to put it but has anyone been getting a shit tonne of buyers who are extremely new as of late? PM me if you don't want to say on the forums.
Roughly 30% of buyers I get have 0/0 stats.
I accept them all and don't require FE. Not normally any issues.
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riddikulus
Have a feeling this is a fellow vendor. Ordered nearly a month ago now left perfect feedback and just changed both to 1/5 tonight to drop me to 98%.
If anyone has had any 'contact' with this purchaser please let me know.
Gotta hate when that happens.
Dos anyone else get a RIDICULOUS amount of AF's?
I seem to constantly have orders auto-finalising. It's very frustrating sitting there waiting for the days to go by waiting for $350 orders to clear payment...
Have $5,000-$10,000 waiting to AF at any given time. It's forced me to go offline for days before when it starts getting to extreme.
It's gotten better over the last few weeks since I've come back but sure it will build up again in no time ::)
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Probably the wrong place to put it but has anyone been getting a shit tonne of buyers who are extremely new as of late? PM me if you don't want to say on the forums.
Roughly 30% of buyers I get have 0/0 stats.
I accept them all and don't require FE. Not normally any issues.
Yeah, I tend to attract a lot of new buyers too. When you have wall to wall positive feedback you get that.
The risk with 0/0 buyers is that they don't know how the ratings system works, so you have a higher chance of getting unfair feedback.
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Probably the wrong place to put it but has anyone been getting a shit tonne of buyers who are extremely new as of late? PM me if you don't want to say on the forums.
Roughly 30% of buyers I get have 0/0 stats.
I accept them all and don't require FE. Not normally any issues.
Yeah, I tend to attract a lot of new buyers too. When you have wall to wall positive feedback you get that.
The risk with 0/0 buyers is that they don't know how the ratings system works, so you have a higher chance of getting unfair feedback.
I don't seem to have many problems. Most of them are too scared to give negative feedback.
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riddikulus
Have a feeling this is a fellow vendor. Ordered nearly a month ago now left perfect feedback and just changed both to 1/5 tonight to drop me to 98%.
If anyone has had any 'contact' with this purchaser please let me know.
Gotta hate when that happens.
Dos anyone else get a RIDICULOUS amount of AF's?
I seem to constantly have orders auto-finalising. It's very frustrating sitting there waiting for the days to go by waiting for $350 orders to clear payment...
Have $5,000-$10,000 waiting to AF at any given time. It's forced me to go offline for days before when it starts getting to extreme.
It's gotten better over the last few weeks since I've come back but sure it will build up again in no time ::)
That's a lot more than I have, but you would sell a lot more than me. I had $800 AF overnight. Still got about $1100 to come through in the next 2-3 days.
I did a custom order for someone a while ago for just under $2K and they let the order AF which I thought was pretty selfish. I had to remove large listings because I couldn't afford new stock yet. As I've said on other threads, we need a 7 day domestic AF, not 17.
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This is my personal blacklist:
vanvanvoo
jakeandjack
jjcc4350
itainteasybeingme
Mrp
blizzardlips
789query
Jizo893
L3tt0
Fractalatus
blackpink55
frogbandit
funkyjunky
SpaceCadet80
sketch66
I didn't write down the reasons for all of them as the list was created for personal use originally, but it was mostly people who tried to get free shit through feedback scamming or wanted to meet up in real life or pay without using BTC. Feel free to add them to your blacklist :)
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This is my personal blacklist:
vanvanvoo
jakeandjack
jjcc4350
itainteasybeingme
Mrp
blizzardlips
789query
Jizo893
L3tt0
Fractalatus
blackpink55
frogbandit
funkyjunky
SpaceCadet80
sketch66
I didn't write down the reasons for all of them as the list was created for personal use originally, but it was mostly people who tried to get free shit through feedback scamming or wanted to meet up in real life or pay without using BTC. Feel free to add them to your blacklist :)
What did Fractalatus do to you? He left me an unfair 4/5. I don't communicate with customers about feedback so I have no idea what his angle is.
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This is my personal blacklist:
vanvanvoo
jakeandjack
jjcc4350
itainteasybeingme
Mrp
blizzardlips
789query
Jizo893
L3tt0
Fractalatus
blackpink55
frogbandit
funkyjunky
SpaceCadet80
sketch66
I didn't write down the reasons for all of them as the list was created for personal use originally, but it was mostly people who tried to get free shit through feedback scamming or wanted to meet up in real life or pay without using BTC. Feel free to add them to your blacklist :)
What did Fractalatus do to you? He left me an unfair 4/5. I don't communicate with customers about feedback so I have no idea what his angle is.
I think he left 4/5 feedback as well with no explanation without contacting us first and ignoring messages attempting resolution. Our policy clearly states to contact us first if a customer has any issues, we are not dickheads and we are extremely polite to every single customer and generally operate on a 'the customers always right' policy as it's more profitable in the long run the being an ass to people, so it's very frustrating selling to new buyers who then go and leave 3/5 or 4/5 feedback for no reason which drops our rating, who then ignore us when we message them.
The one you really want to watch out for is frogbandit, he scammed Dryice on a 1once coke order, then left me a 2/5 on our Red Nazi pills claiming they only had '30-50mg' of MDMA, which is pretty funny considering we imported the MDMA and pressed them ourselves, and they have each have 100mg in them as an absolute minimum, probably more around the 105-110mg mark. We have even sold them to ssbd and a couple of other respected members on this forum who can vouch for the quality.
Also, the customer blizzardlips left us a 1/5 saying we used a fake return address and that would lead to controlled deliveries on our customers, and was extremely rude in his response to our message explaining that the return address was not fake and also that in over 500+ orders we have not had a single controlled delivery or even lost a single package.
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This is my personal blacklist:
vanvanvoo
jakeandjack
jjcc4350
itainteasybeingme
Mrp
blizzardlips
789query
Jizo893
L3tt0
Fractalatus
blackpink55
frogbandit
funkyjunky
SpaceCadet80
sketch66
I didn't write down the reasons for all of them as the list was created for personal use originally, but it was mostly people who tried to get free shit through feedback scamming or wanted to meet up in real life or pay without using BTC. Feel free to add them to your blacklist :)
What did Fractalatus do to you? He left me an unfair 4/5. I don't communicate with customers about feedback so I have no idea what his angle is.
I think he left 4/5 feedback as well with no explanation without contacting us first and ignoring messages attempting resolution. Our policy clearly states to contact us first if a customer has any issues, we are not dickheads and we are extremely polite to every single customer and generally operate on a 'the customers always right' policy as it's more profitable in the long run the being an ass to people, so it's very frustrating selling to new buyers who then go and leave 3/5 or 4/5 feedback for no reason which drops our rating, who then ignore us when we message them.
The one you really want to watch out for is frogbandit, he scammed Dryice on a 1once coke order, then left me a 2/5 on our Red Nazi pills claiming they only had '30-50mg' of MDMA, which is pretty funny considering we imported the MDMA and pressed them ourselves, and they have each have 100mg in them as an absolute minimum, probably more around the 105-110mg mark. We have even sold them to ssbd and a couple of other respected members on this forum who can vouch for the quality.
Also, the customer blizzardlips left us a 1/5 saying we used a fake return address and that would lead to controlled deliveries on our customers, and was extremely rude in his response to our message explaining that the return address was not fake and also that in over 500+ orders we have not had a single controlled delivery or even lost a single package.
Thanks for your contribution. I have added them all to the original post list.
My vendor page says the same thing: If you have a problem, please PM me, don't just leave low feedback.I consider feedback to be the last aspect of a transaction. If a buyer leaves low feedback I am not going to be as helpful, as I can see they are often trying to blackmail me.
I've had one person demand a refund because they were too scared to go to the post office to collect their order. Not sure why it was at the post office, but they must have a tiny letterbox for it to not be able to fit in. I said I don't give refunds, and they even admitted their letterbox is tiny. But they still wanted a refund. In the end they collected the package and there was no problems at all.
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Can now add the user name -( bailoutlawrider ) to this list.
Placed an order for two LSD tabs, ten days later they take the order into resolution without any prior contact via the messaging system, claiming the package never arrived and wanting a 100% refund. When I checked the tracking it is showing delivered the day after posting.
When I respond to their resolution explaining that no refund will be issued due to tracking results displaying DELIVERED status, they accept the very next day and leave me a 3 of 5 rating with a real shitty description.
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I have been hit by three fucks on this list.
Godthrilla
Mrp
frogbandit
it seems Australia is a huge target for this. I found when I was selling speed I had scammers hitting me left right and center. they must sit up all night buzzing off their faces creating new id's and trying to get free gear.
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Hey Dingo please remove
redbull99
We sorted out after a couple of msg's
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I am confused about the last post. What it is supposed to mean / what user do I add to the blacklist?
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Ok I have removed that from the list.
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User: losttheplot
Action taken: Reported to SR vendor support
Synopsis: Attempted to scam 100 pills out of me by claiming to have ordered and not received pills, when no order was made in the first place.
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Add 'Element1' please. He claims his order never arrived. I was considering giving him a 50% reship but now I see he is mentioned in several threads in the Vendor forum for being a dodgy buyer.
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User: losttheplot
Action taken: Reported to SR vendor support
Synopsis: Attempted to scam 100 pills out of me by claiming to have ordered and not received pills, when no order was made in the first place.
this idiot messaged me this morning. i told him to go fuck himself
"losttheplot werw is my gramof ice i finalized early for 1month aho b4 i was loked up. i only just got out thayd y i didnt msg earlier 12 hours read
delete"
i knew he hadnt ordered before because there were no prior communications between us. plus we werent selling meth a month ago. and on top of that iv seen this guys name before on the vendors blacklist. which makes you think someone must be falling for this
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User: losttheplot
Action taken: Reported to SR vendor support
Synopsis: Attempted to scam 100 pills out of me by claiming to have ordered and not received pills, when no order was made in the first place.
this idiot messaged me this morning. i told him to go fuck himself
"losttheplot werw is my gramof ice i finalized early for 1month aho b4 i was loked up. i only just got out thayd y i didnt msg earlier 12 hours read
delete"
i knew he hadnt ordered before because there were no prior communications between us. plus we werent selling meth a month ago. and on top of that iv seen this guys name before on the vendors blacklist. which makes you think someone must be falling for this
SR support banned him/her after I reported. SR support tells me that the account had no transactions, just scamming messages.
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Is it possible to set this topic sticky?
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Hey Dingo please add "mystuff".... complete and utter dickhead of a customer/vendor or LE!
Explanation:
Hey Guys, Update on recent feedback from a buyer named " MYSTUFF". He gave me a 1/5 and stated that his "express" Item took a week to arrive and that I was abusive and would not give him the tracking number.... sigh..
Total and obvious Vendor on Vendor attack and here are our conversations below:
Thurs 27/06/2013 Mystuff- You say you don't send Fridays?
Thurs 27/06/2013 Mystuff- Can you cancel my original order as I can not afford the 14gs and I will re order a 7gram listing and can you post tomorrow at all? keen rpt buyer thx.
Thurs 27/06/2013 ME - Sorry mate I don't send on Fridays as it will sit in the PO over the weekend.
Original order has been cancelled.
Cheers
Thurs 27/06/2013 Mystuff - Thanks.
Thurs 27/06/2013 ME - Your Welcome.
Wed 3 /07/2013 Mystuff - don't know if last mess went thru, order not here today, unusual with express expected yesterday do you have a tracking #? Please respond, disappointed, am in regional QLD (Nambour) but another order posted Monday arrived yesterday no problems and I have not had a problem with you before, forgive me if a bit paranoid, recent ugly experience, cheers
Wed 3 /07/2013 ME - Hey Mate,
It was only posted yesterday champ.
Remember I don't post on Fridays?
Also please read my description in full in relation to time frames and tracking information.
Cheers
**I made a error here as I though it was Tuesday in which I was referring to his item being posted on Monday***
Wed 3 /07/2013 Mystuff - Its wednesday, yesterday was tuesday and I know about Fridays
Wed 3 /07/2013 Mystuff - an exp post # please and you marked this as in transit Monday, why did you not post until Tues???? IF I do get tomorrow, has not arrived for a week, that's not express.
Thursday 4 /07/2013 Mystuff - what's my express post number and why didn't you post Monday? Or did you?????
Thursday 4 /07/2013 Mystuff - Half witted as well as half baked? Negative feedback will be left and won't be back. Did you post Monday as implied or yesterday or are u such a product user u don't remember? When was item actually posted and can I have the number if posted express as claimed? Please send express post #, if u say express I expect my paid for items EXPRESS. Not a week later.
**please note that these msgs where within hours of each other over night in which I was asleep and into the next day when I was busy with orders and out all day***
Thursday 4 /07/2013 Me -
Hey Mate,
Sorry mate been busy all day.
Yep no I got my days mixed up and it was definitely posted on Monday. (phew weeks gone so quick)
On another note mate no need to be disrespectful and quite frankly very very rude and if you had bothered to read my information prior to contacting me then you would no good and well what my time frames are and when to contact me if your item has not arrived.
If you placed a order after the cut off times for Thursday post then your item was posted on Monday... My description states very clearly below:
****Halfbaked Australian Express Post orders could take up to 3 days to arrive, depends where you reside - the benefits of Express are clearly the tracking to ensure a successful delivery.******
*****These shipping times are estimates only, please do not contact me about "missing orders" until 5 BUSINESS days have elapsed.****
***************************************************************************************************************************************************************
You have failed to read this information and now you have resorted to act immature and call ME names? Very disappointed in you!
You will receive your tracking number on Friday (which is the 5th day!) BUT firstly I would like a apology otherwise you get NOTHING! and you will then be banned from my shop, and listed on the Australian buyers BLACKLIST for all Aus Vendors!
Thank You!
Thursday 4 /07/2013 Mystuff - am reporting you to s/r for not giving me #, you are being very sneaky and I don't trust you anymore.
Thursday 4 /07/2013 ME - Go ahead mate, I have been on here for a year and dealt with many dropkicks like yourself, you are a obvious scammer and will be banned and blacklisted!
You failed again to read my last msg as well which outlines how stupid you really are!
SR can see this whole conversation and also my description in which you have not followed AT ALL but you have the nerve to call me sneaky and untruthful! HA! Nice try dropkick!
HB.
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User: losttheplot
Action taken: Reported to SR vendor support
Synopsis: Attempted to scam 100 pills out of me by claiming to have ordered and not received pills, when no order was made in the first place.
this idiot messaged me this morning. i told him to go fuck himself
"losttheplot werw is my gramof ice i finalized early for 1month aho b4 i was loked up. i only just got out thayd y i didnt msg earlier 12 hours read
delete"
i knew he hadnt ordered before because there were no prior communications between us. plus we werent selling meth a month ago. and on top of that iv seen this guys name before on the vendors blacklist. which makes you think someone must be falling for this
This guy also messaged me for an 8ball. My message back was nice before I even read this thread and was along the lines of "What's your address mate so I can reship :)"
;D
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User: losttheplot
Action taken: Reported to SR vendor support
Synopsis: Attempted to scam 100 pills out of me by claiming to have ordered and not received pills, when no order was made in the first place.
this idiot messaged me this morning. i told him to go fuck himself
"losttheplot werw is my gramof ice i finalized early for 1month aho b4 i was loked up. i only just got out thayd y i didnt msg earlier 12 hours read
delete"
i knew he hadnt ordered before because there were no prior communications between us. plus we werent selling meth a month ago. and on top of that iv seen this guys name before on the vendors blacklist. which makes you think someone must be falling for this
This guy also messaged me for an 8ball. My message back was nice before I even read this thread and was along the lines of "What's your address mate so I can reship :)"
;D
Incredibly an Australian vendor selling ice was scammed by this girl (I think). After the vendor realized that he had been scammed by this user the doxxed he users address and so on, and ended up getting banned by SR admin. Complete meltdown.
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User: losttheplot
Action taken: Reported to SR vendor support
Synopsis: Attempted to scam 100 pills out of me by claiming to have ordered and not received pills, when no order was made in the first place.
this idiot messaged me this morning. i told him to go fuck himself
"losttheplot werw is my gramof ice i finalized early for 1month aho b4 i was loked up. i only just got out thayd y i didnt msg earlier 12 hours read
delete"
i knew he hadnt ordered before because there were no prior communications between us. plus we werent selling meth a month ago. and on top of that iv seen this guys name before on the vendors blacklist. which makes you think someone must be falling for this
This guy also messaged me for an 8ball. My message back was nice before I even read this thread and was along the lines of "What's your address mate so I can reship :)"
;D
Incredibly an Australian vendor selling ice was scammed by this girl (I think). After the vendor realized that he had been scammed by this user the doxxed he users address and so on, and ended up getting banned by SR admin. Complete meltdown.
This user has sent me similar messages from different usernames over the last few months, I know its the same person from the shocking spelling.
I first started asking for transaction numbers that he/she could never provide but still continued to try get something for nothing, This happened a couple of times.
Next time they sent me a message said a gram of meth never showed i didnt sell my listed gram but anyways i played along and said send me your address i will reship that asap, Surprising enough he/she sent me an address unencrypted NO i didnt store the address just his name and postcode for future reference.
A week or two ago was the last msg i received from this user saying the same as you guys received, I replied no order for a gram has been received but you had better hurry and place it because im about to smoke it.
We seriously need a Ban buyer button that prevents buyers from placing orders it would make protecting ourselves much easier.
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I need some advice if one you fine gents wants to help a fellow vendor out shoot me your thoughts.
Ok so early last week a new user but not 0/0 had maybe 1-2/0 places an order for a gram.
No worries i let him stay in escrow and shipped the gram Express.
A few days later i receive a message from him asking if i remembered the strret number the order got shipped too, I replied no i dont remember and that info gets deleted after i put the order in transit.
So i checked the tracking for him but no scans showed, i waited a week after i shipped and still no scans.
Told him no worries i will reship your order as this is very rare so i reshipped the order this thursday.
I then goggled his postcode and its outside the express zone.
On friday arvo i checked tracking for the reship and same thing NO SCANS, I sent him a message asking if he got the reship but no reply as yet and no finalize on the order.
There is no way i am sending a third gram and i will be very unhappy if i dont get full payment of the order.
I went out of my way and did the right thing for this customer.
How should i handle this?
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Sorry for the slow reply here. I have added those names to the blacklist now.
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I need some advice if one you fine gents wants to help a fellow vendor out shoot me your thoughts.
Ok so early last week a new user but not 0/0 had maybe 1-2/0 places an order for a gram.
No worries i let him stay in escrow and shipped the gram Express.
A few days later i receive a message from him asking if i remembered the strret number the order got shipped too, I replied no i dont remember and that info gets deleted after i put the order in transit.
So i checked the tracking for him but no scans showed, i waited a week after i shipped and still no scans.
Told him no worries i will reship your order as this is very rare so i reshipped the order this thursday.
I then goggled his postcode and its outside the express zone.
On friday arvo i checked tracking for the reship and same thing NO SCANS, I sent him a message asking if he got the reship but no reply as yet and no finalize on the order.
There is no way i am sending a third gram and i will be very unhappy if i dont get full payment of the order.
I went out of my way and did the right thing for this customer.
How should i handle this?
I would have been hesitant doing the first reship.
Don't send it a third time. Maybe a postal delay / error?
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I need some advice if one you fine gents wants to help a fellow vendor out shoot me your thoughts.
Ok so early last week a new user but not 0/0 had maybe 1-2/0 places an order for a gram.
No worries i let him stay in escrow and shipped the gram Express.
A few days later i receive a message from him asking if i remembered the strret number the order got shipped too, I replied no i dont remember and that info gets deleted after i put the order in transit.
So i checked the tracking for him but no scans showed, i waited a week after i shipped and still no scans.
Told him no worries i will reship your order as this is very rare so i reshipped the order this thursday.
I then goggled his postcode and its outside the express zone.
On friday arvo i checked tracking for the reship and same thing NO SCANS, I sent him a message asking if he got the reship but no reply as yet and no finalize on the order.
There is no way i am sending a third gram and i will be very unhappy if i dont get full payment of the order.
I went out of my way and did the right thing for this customer.
How should i handle this?
I would have been hesitant doing the first reship.
Don't send it a third time. Maybe a postal delay / error?
He gets back to me today said he got it but i checked track on both shipments ZERO scams on either, HMM.
BEWARE ZERO SCAN'S ON EXPRESS MAIL.
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Aussie vendors beware of these two buyer accounts they are hit accounts, : RompaStompa and sonosie300 if you accept and order from one of these account you will be likely be hit with bad feedback.
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Hey Dingo, I'd like to recommend that '0001962434' be considered for removal from this black list.
He placed an order with me for two items. I cancelled his order, informing him he was blacklisted and asked him what he thought he might have done to get blacklisted.
He described three transactions to me that could have been the source of his blacklist request. 2 were possible 'lost in the systems' and one was a purchase where the vendor turned out to be a scammer. (I can provide further detail about who the vendors were if necessary).
Anyway. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and suggested he place an order with me for 1 item, if it went smoothly I would accept his order for the more expensive item.
He Finalized on each order quickly after receiving his item.
It's possible that 0001962434 is an honest buyer, who has legitimately had orders lost in the mail, and who has been wrongly blacklisted.
Perhaps you could put a comment next to his name saying (possibly honest buyer), and link to this post. Then if any other vendors have dealings with him they can comment, and his name can be removed altogether?
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Hey Dingo, I'd like to recommend that '0001962434' be considered for removal from this black list.
He placed an order with me for two items. I cancelled his order, informing him he was blacklisted and asked him what he thought he might have done to get blacklisted.
He described three transactions to me that could have been the source of his blacklist request. 2 were possible 'lost in the systems' and one was a purchase where the vendor turned out to be a scammer. (I can provide further detail about who the vendors were if necessary).
Anyway. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and suggested he place an order with me for 1 item, if it went smoothly I would accept his order for the more expensive item.
He Finalized on each order quickly after receiving his item.
It's possible that 0001962434 is an honest buyer, who has legitimately had orders lost in the mail, and who has been wrongly blacklisted.
Perhaps you could put a comment next to his name saying (possibly honest buyer), and link to this post. Then if any other vendors have dealings with him they can comment, and his name can be removed altogether?
I'm hesitant on removing usernames because I have had other vendors tell me that the buyer "yahtzee" is a good buyer, but he has attempted to scam me and halfbaked out of 1oz weed.
The list isn't necessarily a don't sell to list, but beware of the buyer list. So perhaps an extra caution such as asking the buyer to FE if they wish to make an order.
You can see why people have been blacklisted in the thread anyway. There is usually an explanation given by the vendor. If I started removing usernames it would defeat the purpose of the list. Not every bad buyer will be bad to every vendor.
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Hey Dingo, I'd like to recommend that '0001962434' be considered for removal from this black list.
He placed an order with me for two items. I cancelled his order, informing him he was blacklisted and asked him what he thought he might have done to get blacklisted.
He described three transactions to me that could have been the source of his blacklist request. 2 were possible 'lost in the systems' and one was a purchase where the vendor turned out to be a scammer. (I can provide further detail about who the vendors were if necessary).
Anyway. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and suggested he place an order with me for 1 item, if it went smoothly I would accept his order for the more expensive item.
He Finalized on each order quickly after receiving his item.
It's possible that 0001962434 is an honest buyer, who has legitimately had orders lost in the mail, and who has been wrongly blacklisted.
Perhaps you could put a comment next to his name saying (possibly honest buyer), and link to this post. Then if any other vendors have dealings with him they can comment, and his name can be removed altogether?
I'm hesitant on removing usernames because I have had other vendors tell me that the buyer "yahtzee" is a good buyer, but he has attempted to scam me and halfbaked out of 1oz weed.
The list isn't necessarily a don't sell to list, but beware of the buyer list. So perhaps an extra caution such as asking the buyer to FE if they wish to make an order.
You can see why people have been blacklisted in the thread anyway. There is usually an explanation given by the vendor. If I started removing usernames it would defeat the purpose of the list. Not every bad buyer will be bad to every vendor.
Agreed. There are at least 2 blacklisted buyers there that I never had any issues with. I think the blacklist is a caution, not necessarily 'do not go' sign. If someone in the blacklist orders, you can send the buyer a message saying, "look, you have been blacklisted on the vendors forum. I believe in giving everyone a chance. You are not going to give me any trouble, are you?".
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Ok Im good with that, leave his name there.
I can vouch for him to the extent that he made two orders from me and finalized quickly with no fuss.
But you guys are right that doesn't mean he will never try it on with other vendors in the future, therefore he should be treated with caution.
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Ok Im good with that, leave his name there.
I can vouch for him to the extent that he made two orders from me and finalized quickly with no fuss.
But you guys are right that doesn't mean he will never try it on with other vendors in the future, therefore he should be treated with caution.
Ok - Glad you understand. Yea this list is mainly for to caution vendors about potential scamming buyers. It doesn't mean it's not safe to sell to them, just be careful about how you deal with them.
The list has helped at least a few vendors so far, so I'm glad it is helping anyway. I recently added someone to the list that another vendor had problems with. I have had them buy from me at least 3 times and no problems, other than them being pushy about m sending the order that day (they ordered at 3 or 4pm). I would still sell to them, but I would not go out especially to send one small order.
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emnantso9n
left me 4/5 for no reason, I tried to contact to find out why the feedback was left like this but got no response.
from emnantso9n feedback there was no issue so it seems this person will just leave you bad scores regardless.
3.5g Australia's Best cocaine imported from SA emnantso9n 4 of 5 pretty good coke, good service
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emnantso9n
left me 4/5 for no reason, I tried to contact to find out why the feedback was left like this but got no response.
from emnantso9n feedback there was no issue so it seems this person will just leave you bad scores regardless.
3.5g Australia's Best cocaine imported from SA emnantso9n 4 of 5 pretty good coke, good service
Is that such a bad score in the grand scheme? How is that score weighted in terms of your overall level now?
4/5 is probably indicated by his comment "pretty good" vs your description of "Australia's best cocaine imported from SA" and if he felt your description did not match the delivered product, presume that is a reasonable response and the feedback scores relate to that belief?
Is that something which rings true with you guys?
It's quite a bold description on the listing - I tend personally never to claim to be the best...just offer a good product and let others judge (I don't know all my competitors either, so that would be difficult for me to genuinely claim!)...
I'm interested in what others think.
Cheers
Doc
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emnantso9n
left me 4/5 for no reason, I tried to contact to find out why the feedback was left like this but got no response.
from emnantso9n feedback there was no issue so it seems this person will just leave you bad scores regardless.
3.5g Australia's Best cocaine imported from SA emnantso9n 4 of 5 pretty good coke, good service
I got a 4/5 from a different buyer a few days ago too... "Very quick postage, pretty nice product."
I have PM'd asking why a 4, not a 5. Will wait a while for them to respond. Some buyers only log in every 2 weeks.
Maybe I should wait a few more days for the buyer to reply to you before I blacklist them?
I think that ANY buyer who gives anything less than 5/5 should ALWAYS contact the vendor first.
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I think that ANY buyer who gives anything less than 5/5 should ALWAYS contact the vendor first.
In an ideal world that would be polite and professional (and vendors like me do value close communication and a good relationship to our client base), but frankly if someone describes something as "the best" and it (even in this buyer's opinion) is less than this (which for any vendor is surely impossible to know that for a fact), then surely that's the point of feedback scores? It is a comment surely on the relationship between listing description and actual product?
It would help if we could rate buyers obviously...but the algorithm seems pretty good to me - balancing the credibility of the scorer with the overall rating? Seems pretty fair - and I don't instinctively like the idea of forcing buyers to discuss a feedback - BUT I think some right to reply (like Ebay has) where a published response can be created by the vendor would go some way to addressing concerns.
Just thoughts ;)
Cheers
Doc
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I think that ANY buyer who gives anything less than 5/5 should ALWAYS contact the vendor first.
In an ideal world that would be polite and professional (and vendors like me do value close communication and a good relationship to our client base), but frankly if someone describes something as "the best" and it (even in this buyer's opinion) is less than this (which for any vendor is surely impossible to know that for a fact), then surely that's the point of feedback scores? It is a comment surely on the relationship between listing description and actual product?
It would help if we could rate buyers obviously...but the algorithm seems pretty good to me - balancing the credibility of the scorer with the overall rating? Seems pretty fair - and I don't instinctively like the idea of forcing buyers to discuss a feedback - BUT I think some right to reply (like Ebay has) where a published response can be created by the vendor would go some way to addressing concerns.
Just thoughts ;)
Cheers
Doc
I get where you are coming from. I list all my products as they are. "1gm Hash", "14gm HQ Bush Weed".
The product reviews I get sell my product, not the description I make up. Most of my reviews have been positive, but sometimes I get a random low rating for no reason.
Or I get the "never arrived" and they leave 1/5 without even bothering to notify me that it hasn't arrived. Or they wait 3 days after it was sent and write if off as having been seized by "domestic customs." I agree there should be a way to rate buyers too. Atlantis allows us to rate buyers. I don't like referring to Atlantis all the time and I would much rather use Silk Road, but Atlantis has some very good features that Silk Road could really use.
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I think that ANY buyer who gives anything less than 5/5 should ALWAYS contact the vendor first.
In an ideal world that would be polite and professional (and vendors like me do value close communication and a good relationship to our client base), but frankly if someone describes something as "the best" and it (even in this buyer's opinion) is less than this (which for any vendor is surely impossible to know that for a fact), then surely that's the point of feedback scores? It is a comment surely on the relationship between listing description and actual product?
It would help if we could rate buyers obviously...but the algorithm seems pretty good to me - balancing the credibility of the scorer with the overall rating? Seems pretty fair - and I don't instinctively like the idea of forcing buyers to discuss a feedback - BUT I think some right to reply (like Ebay has) where a published response can be created by the vendor would go some way to addressing concerns.
Just thoughts ;)
Cheers
Doc
I get where you are coming from. I list all my products as they are. "1gm Hash", "14gm HQ Bush Weed".
The product reviews I get sell my product, not the description I make up. Most of my reviews have been positive, but sometimes I get a random low rating for no reason.
Or I get the "never arrived" and they leave 1/5 without even bothering to notify me that it hasn't arrived. Or they wait 3 days after it was sent and write if off as having been seized by "domestic customs." I agree there should be a way to rate buyers too. Atlantis allows us to rate buyers. I don't like referring to Atlantis all the time and I would much rather use Silk Road, but Atlantis has some very good features that Silk Road could really use.
Agree 100%...
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I think that ANY buyer who gives anything less than 5/5 should ALWAYS contact the vendor first.
100% agree! I actually have it spelled out on my page: 'If you have an issue with your order, please contact me to discuss it before rating me.'
That way I have a chance to fix the problem and avoid getting rated down. I actually just had a huge fuckin drama with a buyer who had a (legitimate as it turns out) problem with his order, but instead of contacting me first he just went ahead and rated me down and gave me some fairly cutting feedback. It was made more significant by the fact that this particular buyer has spent about 30-40K on SR and due to the way buyer ratings are weighted according to how much they have spent through SR, his single bad rating dropped my Vendor score from 100% to 92%!!!!
And the whole thing could have been avoided if he had contacted me to give me the chance to fix the issue before he rated me.
As it turned out this guy was already listed on the Aussie Blacklist and I can see why, because he was fairly aggressive and pompous, and clearly disregarded my instructions to buyers... So other people have obviously had problems with him, despite him obviously putting a lot of money through SR. But yeah, I could have saved myself the hassle if I had have been diligent about checking buyers against the blacklist though. I check it before fulfilling all orders now.
Very useful info, and I appreciate you keeping the list up to date Dingo!
Cheers
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I think that ANY buyer who gives anything less than 5/5 should ALWAYS contact the vendor first.
In an ideal world that would be polite and professional (and vendors like me do value close communication and a good relationship to our client base), but frankly if someone describes something as "the best" and it (even in this buyer's opinion) is less than this (which for any vendor is surely impossible to know that for a fact), then surely that's the point of feedback scores? It is a comment surely on the relationship between listing description and actual product?
It would help if we could rate buyers obviously...but the algorithm seems pretty good to me - balancing the credibility of the scorer with the overall rating? Seems pretty fair - and I don't instinctively like the idea of forcing buyers to discuss a feedback - BUT I think some right to reply (like Ebay has) where a published response can be created by the vendor would go some way to addressing concerns.
Just thoughts ;)
Cheers
Doc
Brother seems like you have an issue with me? do you sell cocaine?
My cocaine is the highest purity, I import it straight from Peru so my pure is actually pure and my best cocaine is above 80% so I would say its up with the best. If you want to argue this just wait a few days because I have sent some to PinappleLove in the Netherlands and the lab report is due this weekend.
so yeah 4/5 is harsh and I have had no response from the buyer about it. Me trying to bring this up here is just to help you guys. I don't have any other reason for doing this.
Don't be a hater brother, It's all piece and love from dryice
;)
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I think that ANY buyer who gives anything less than 5/5 should ALWAYS contact the vendor first.
In an ideal world that would be polite and professional (and vendors like me do value close communication and a good relationship to our client base), but frankly if someone describes something as "the best" and it (even in this buyer's opinion) is less than this (which for any vendor is surely impossible to know that for a fact), then surely that's the point of feedback scores? It is a comment surely on the relationship between listing description and actual product?
It would help if we could rate buyers obviously...but the algorithm seems pretty good to me - balancing the credibility of the scorer with the overall rating? Seems pretty fair - and I don't instinctively like the idea of forcing buyers to discuss a feedback - BUT I think some right to reply (like Ebay has) where a published response can be created by the vendor would go some way to addressing concerns.
Just thoughts ;)
Cheers
Doc
Brother seems like you have an issue with me? do you sell cocaine?
My cocaine is the highest purity, I import it straight from Peru so my pure is actually pure and my best cocaine is above 80% so I would say its up with the best. If you want to argue this just wait a few days because I have sent some to PinappleLove in the Netherlands and the lab report is due this weekend.
so yeah 4/5 is harsh and I have had no response from the buyer about it. Me trying to bring this up here is just to help you guys. I don't have any other reason for doing this.
Don't be a hater brother, It's all piece and love from dryice
;)
I don't have an issue with you friend...just felt your judgement on this particular issue was worth some response - in fact if I had a problem I'd not bother ;) Hence why I followed my reasoning with some other suggestions for the wider community.
I'm definitely a lover not a hater
Doc
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I think that ANY buyer who gives anything less than 5/5 should ALWAYS contact the vendor first.
100% agree! I actually have it spelled out on my page: 'If you have an issue with your order, please contact me to discuss it before rating me.'
That way I have a chance to fix the problem and avoid getting rated down. I actually just had a huge fuckin drama with a buyer who had a (legitimate as it turns out) problem with his order, but instead of contacting me first he just went ahead and rated me down and gave me some fairly cutting feedback. It was made more significant by the fact that this particular buyer has spent about 30-40K on SR and due to the way buyer ratings are weighted according to how much they have spent through SR, his single bad rating dropped my Vendor score from 100% to 92%!!!!
And the whole thing could have been avoided if he had contacted me to give me the chance to fix the issue before he rated me.
As it turned out this guy was already listed on the Aussie Blacklist and I can see why, because he was fairly aggressive and pompous, and clearly disregarded my instructions to buyers... So other people have obviously had problems with him, despite him obviously putting a lot of money through SR. But yeah, I could have saved myself the hassle if I had have been diligent about checking buyers against the blacklist though. I check it before fulfilling all orders now.
Very useful info, and I appreciate you keeping the list up to date Dingo!
Cheers
What was their username? Our of curiosity...
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emnantso9n
left me 4/5 for no reason, I tried to contact to find out why the feedback was left like this but got no response.
from emnantso9n feedback there was no issue so it seems this person will just leave you bad scores regardless.
3.5g Australia's Best cocaine imported from SA emnantso9n 4 of 5 pretty good coke, good service
I have since had contact from emnantso9n and he has explained he did not know how the feedback system works properly. He has amended my feedback to 5/5. Please do not add or keep him on the list it was just a simple misunderstanding.
:)
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riddikulus
Have a feeling this is a fellow vendor. Ordered nearly a month ago now left perfect feedback and just changed both to 1/5 tonight to drop me to 98%.
If anyone has had any 'contact' with this purchaser please let me know.
I usually only see the Aussie Bob (100) but today saw that my stats were 99.6% and wondered why. Trawled through feedback and got to the 1st page and saw that user riddikulus had changed two feedbacks to 1/5. He was amongst my very first customers, ordered a g of MDMA and a g of K.
I'm not sure, but it seems like SR weights the feedback from known malicious buyers differently. I would have thought two neg feedbacks would have damaged my stats more? Buyer is definitely a giant, steaming pile of shit, AB.
P.S. Thanks for modding this thread Dingo, I think the SR powers that be are using this information too!
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riddikulus
Have a feeling this is a fellow vendor. Ordered nearly a month ago now left perfect feedback and just changed both to 1/5 tonight to drop me to 98%.
If anyone has had any 'contact' with this purchaser please let me know.
I usually only see the Aussie Bob (100) but today saw that my stats were 99.6% and wondered why. Trawled through feedback and got to the 1st page and saw that user riddikulus had changed two feedbacks to 1/5. He was amongst my very first customers, ordered a g of MDMA and a g of K.
I'm not sure, but it seems like SR weights the feedback from known malicious buyers differently. I would have thought two neg feedbacks would have damaged my stats more? Buyer is definitely a giant, steaming pile of shit, AB.
P.S. Thanks for modding this thread Dingo, I think the SR powers that be are using this information too!
If a certain buyer leaves lots of low feedback, their feedback isn't worth as much. The dollar value and how long ago the transaction was also are a part of the score.
A while back someone with $50K bought 1oz off me and left 1/5 which changed my score a lot. But they were a confirmed scammer and ended up changing to 5/5 and they are also now blacklisted :)
Maintaining a 100 score forever isn't really realistic. There will always be scammers out there who leave low feedback in hope of free drugs or a refund.
Anything above 97 is good anyway. Most buyers will overlook the small amount of negatives and see you are a good vendor.
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riddikulus
Have a feeling this is a fellow vendor. Ordered nearly a month ago now left perfect feedback and just changed both to 1/5 tonight to drop me to 98%.
If anyone has had any 'contact' with this purchaser please let me know.
I usually only see the Aussie Bob (100) but today saw that my stats were 99.6% and wondered why. Trawled through feedback and got to the 1st page and saw that user riddikulus had changed two feedbacks to 1/5. He was amongst my very first customers, ordered a g of MDMA and a g of K.
I'm not sure, but it seems like SR weights the feedback from known malicious buyers differently. I would have thought two neg feedbacks would have damaged my stats more? Buyer is definitely a giant, steaming pile of shit, AB.
P.S. Thanks for modding this thread Dingo, I think the SR powers that be are using this information too!
If a certain buyer leaves lots of low feedback, their feedback isn't worth as much. The dollar value and how long ago the transaction was also are a part of the score.
A while back someone with $50K bought 1oz off me and left 1/5 which changed my score a lot. But they were a confirmed scammer and ended up changing to 5/5 and they are also now blacklisted :)
Maintaining a 100 score forever isn't really realistic. There will always be scammers out there who leave low feedback in hope of free drugs or a refund.
Anything above 97 is good anyway. Most buyers will overlook the small amount of negatives and see you are a good vendor.
Spot on D....imagine ANY business int he real world getting these kind of feedback figures!!?...we all try our very best (well the good vendors do) and when you have a lot of transactions it's bound to attract some odd feedback now and again..try to not let it get to you and continue doing business as well as possible...
Cheers
Doc
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freelove
I was given the following feedback 4/5 for my Pure cocaine witch is Pure cocaine.
I have sent a message witch I will post bellow also. This message has been read with response.
1g (1000mg) Pure Peruvian Cocaine (Zero Cutter)
freelove
4 of 5
Delivery time good!
Cocaine had a great look, nice pearly shine. The effect was more to be desired. Much better than street quality.
Decent stealth. :)
dryice(93)
Hi brother, Since you have not gotten back to me I am going to put you on the vendor forum to warn the other vendors. I will be happy to change this for you if you are willing to respond and be fair with the feedback.
regards
dryice
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dryice(93)
Hi brother I saw you gave me 4/5 on my feedback? this is not fair bro. can you please change this to 5/5?
My cocaine is Pure cocaine, cocaine does not come any better than this mate. I am famous on silkroad now for having the best cocaine in the world and you are saying it was no good?
Please be fair, I will provide the lab test results below of the cocaine you tried bought and the forum links. please read this.
I think if you weigh out a point of my cocaine you will see how strong it really is, it is very light and fluffy so a point line is massive.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=108950.msg1345557#msg1345557
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=108950.0
Published on: July 16 2013
Tested by: PineappleLove
Vendor: Dryice
Listed as: "Pure Peruvian Cocaine"
Purchasing method: Agreement
Results:
88% Cocaine
No active cuts
freelove please fix your feedback for me, I will have to put you on the watch list on the vendor forum if you do not and no other vendors will do business with you because they will know you will leave them bad feedback for no reason as well. I don't want to do this to you, maybe you are new to silkroad and don't understand how the feedback system works so here is your chance. feedback other than 5/5 affects a sellers business greatly that is why buyers will only leave a comment about the product strength without attacking the vendors score a a service. the rating is for service rather than strength of product.
Please re consider.
regards
dryice
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freelove
I was given the following feedback 4/5 for my Pure cocaine witch is Pure cocaine.
I have sent a message witch I will post bellow also. This message has been read with response.
1g (1000mg) Pure Peruvian Cocaine (Zero Cutter)
freelove
4 of 5
Delivery time good!
Cocaine had a great look, nice pearly shine. The effect was more to be desired. Much better than street quality.
Decent stealth. :)
dryice(93)
Hi brother, Since you have not gotten back to me I am going to put you on the vendor forum to warn the other vendors. I will be happy to change this for you if you are willing to respond and be fair with the feedback.
regards
dryice
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dryice(93)
Hi brother I saw you gave me 4/5 on my feedback? this is not fair bro. can you please change this to 5/5?
My cocaine is Pure cocaine, cocaine does not come any better than this mate. I am famous on silkroad now for having the best cocaine in the world and you are saying it was no good?
Please be fair, I will provide the lab test results below of the cocaine you tried bought and the forum links. please read this.
I think if you weigh out a point of my cocaine you will see how strong it really is, it is very light and fluffy so a point line is massive.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=108950.msg1345557#msg1345557
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=108950.0
Published on: July 16 2013
Tested by: PineappleLove
Vendor: Dryice
Listed as: "Pure Peruvian Cocaine"
Purchasing method: Agreement
Results:
88% Cocaine
No active cuts
freelove please fix your feedback for me, I will have to put you on the watch list on the vendor forum if you do not and no other vendors will do business with you because they will know you will leave them bad feedback for no reason as well. I don't want to do this to you, maybe you are new to silkroad and don't understand how the feedback system works so here is your chance. feedback other than 5/5 affects a sellers business greatly that is why buyers will only leave a comment about the product strength without attacking the vendors score a a service. the rating is for service rather than strength of product.
Please re consider.
regards
dryice
free love has dissuaded to be fair with my feedback.
1g (1000mg) Pure Peruvian Cocaine (Zero Cutter)
freelove
5 of 5
A+
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Poppydog - leaves his orders until the last minute to Finalize, asks for a loan / discount
NOT WORTH THE EFFORT!
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Dingo please add the following users to the list:
coastseleven
Merch
lgood
Dodgy behaviour from all three. Each claimed their order didn't arrive and requested a reship of product.
I suspect they were just playing me to try and get free product.
They might be ok buyers for a majority of the time but if any other buyers experience requests for reships from these users I would be suspicious.
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Dr Squidring
The guy is a freak and a troll! Avoid him!
Messaged me saying his order was late arriving (4 business days in transit). I reply lets wait a couple days to see if it arrives, if it's still a 'no show' we can discuss a % refund. All good.
I made the mistake of saying in my reply 'I hope you're not just claiming your order didn't arrive to obtain a refund." I was just letting him know that I am well aware of the ol' play for a reship many buyers attempt.
Holy Shit... This guy climbs up on his high horse and spews an avalanche of moral outrage - completely over the top: "I am DISGUSTED!... HOW DARE YOU!!! ...This is and OUTRAGE!!!! etc :P
After the first email, I replied with: 'Ok you took that too personally. Im very sorry for causing offense, please see it from my POV, its hard to tell who is honest, and who is just playing for free product/refunds... It was never meant as a personal attack on you. Again I Apologize for the offense."
Well it just escalates.... He starts telling me I have 'TERRIBLE CUSTOMER SERVICE', I am a 'TERRIBLE VENDOR.'... 'He will NEVER order from me again' blah blah
Keep in mind that I currently have 100% feedback from 300+ trans... I often get thanked for being helpful to first time buyers and have good comms in general...
Plainly this guy is just trolling me and is looking to get a rise... At this time I have around 10 messages, one after the other, of outraged tirade LOL :D
In the end... i Cancelled his order, released the funds to him in full ($50 - its peanuts!)... and told him I didn't want or need his business and I would never accept any future orders from him.
So in summary - This guy is time waster, a problem buyer and a troll and is not worth your effort or product. Avoid him!
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Dr Squidring
The guy is a freak and a troll! Avoid him!
Messaged me saying his order was late arriving (4 business days in transit).
Uh oh. Thanks for sharing. I think I've had this guy before with another name.
I've had a few buyers like him also from WA also complain about delivery times like its our fault they live in the farthest reaches of the country. I'd encourage all Australian vendors to pre-warn WA buyers that their delivery may take an additional 7 days (at least). I offer to cancel all orders from WA buyers first unless they agree to tolerate this delay.
Stay Safe,
Your DrugBuddy.
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Dingo, please add 'autumnleaves' - left 1/5 - suspect other vendor.
Also, please add 'poociggie' - left order to auto finalise, when tracking shows delivered. Never read our messages.
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Sorry for the delay.
I have updated the list.
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No worries Dingo. Appreciate your effort in maintaining this thread mate, is a very valuable resource.
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mdmatt - accused us of cutting our product because it smelt of "mdma" but something else too and his quick Google search indicated any mdma that sticks to the bag is a cutter and demanded a full refund (fuckwit),
we assured him we only resell the best it would be bad business practice to cut our product and explained we wash the product if we see fit and always reagent test our mdma,
he preceded to let the order to auto-finalze, left us a 1/5 claimed our product was piperzine in the feedback and spammed the rest with "STICK TO A REPUTATBLE VENDOR, AVOID THIS SCAMMER AT ALL COSTS" about 100 times wtf?
most of the spam was removed after messaging vendor support. =)
much love to all the aussie vendors, stay safe
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Gankytrio
This guy claims he only received 3 quarters of his order. I took notice of him when he ordered because he placed a large order, with very low purchase history. I suspected it might be a scam attempt so I sent his order Express so I could monitor the tracking number (I do this occasionally, if I think an order is risky).
A couple days after the order status changed to 'Delivered' he contacted me asking random questions about 'when should he finalize'. He didnt say anything about whether his order had arrived or whether he was happy with it. When I let him know I had retained the tracking info and could see his order was marked as 'Delivered', He came back with 'I only received three quarters for my order, I want free product.' - Which I declined.
I suggested we take it to the Res Center, he opted to finalize and rated me 4/5.
Note - I accept that there is a SLIM possibility I made a mistake and left out a portion of his order, although I really doubt it, especially since I was paying closer attention to this guy because his order seemed risky.
Also, I would have been prepared to concede a small % refund if he had of opened a dispute in the Res Center as I suggested, however he elected not to go for a refund.
Vendors should use their own judgement with this guy, however, if this same scenario played out with another vendor (as in Gankytrio claimed he received less than his full order with another vendor), then any doubt I have about whether I made a mistake on his order would be completely removed and I would say this guy is 100% scammer.
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I Can confirm Cannancoke is a serial pest. Very hard person to deal with I would advise caution when dealing with this user.
I dont know if Autofinialising is enough to get added to the ban list but I will let you know of a few.:
3luke3 - 1/2oz
messagemedium - 1 oz
potwombat - 1oz
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anon6372822 can be considered as someone to be careful when dealing with if things don't work out perfectly.
They bought a tab of LSD and left 1/5 saying it was bunk even though I ask on my profile that I be contacted before anything less than 5/5 is left so it can be resolved. I went to offer a free reship as these things happen which he declined and went onto further decline updating his feedback to make mention of my efforts.
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Hello fellow vendors, I just got access to this forum.
I am about to do a big transaction with frogbandit who is on the scammers list.
Dryice can you please elaborate as to how he scammed you for an oz of coke? His stats are extremely good and it looks like he has never had a refund or auto-finalize in almost 100k spent of transactions?
I want to go through with a 10k order but want to know the method he used to scam you out of your oz of coke before I go through with it...
Just want to be prepared as to the method he used to scam you so I can prevent that and bring it up to you... How much did he get? 50% or did he manage to scam you the whole ounce?
thanks dude
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Also, add nick88 to the list immediately. He claimed that he wanted to make a huge order from me and was only missing .2 bitcoins due to a fluctuation. I told him I'd make him a private listing at .5 cheaper than the listed price and he immediately didn't reply.
I have another vendor account and he tried the exact same thing with a different speel... I'm guessing he's trying to get $10-$20 from each vendor as a mini scam. Careful with this guys, always offer to make a private listing for cheaper rather than sending coins.
Peace
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unintrusive - claimed never received package, when i showed him tracking number saying delivered claimed his address must be "compromised", and i should do a free reship to a new address, because thats what the last vendor did....means he tried to rip me off and has ripped somebody else off....when i said no simply let order AF
Zellcorp - brand new on SR, claimed my gear made him sick and what was i going to do about it? When i told him I was part of a secret LE program to sell over 300 orders, then pick one person and make them sick......he gave me 1/5
saeamus - gave 4/5 for no reason, mailed him and he saw my message but never got back to me
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Hello fellow vendors, I just got access to this forum.
I am about to do a big transaction with frogbandit who is on the scammers list.
Dryice can you please elaborate as to how he scammed you for an oz of coke? His stats are extremely good and it looks like he has never had a refund or auto-finalize in almost 100k spent of transactions?
I want to go through with a 10k order but want to know the method he used to scam you out of your oz of coke before I go through with it...
Just want to be prepared as to the method he used to scam you so I can prevent that and bring it up to you... How much did he get? 50% or did he manage to scam you the whole ounce?
thanks dude
The thing you have to be careful about with Frogbandit is that his ratings carry ALOT of clout because of how much money he has spent thru SR.. and he likes to throw his weight around and push vendors about.
See, the rating system is weighted so that buyers who have spent alot of money and havent asked for refunds, are afforded greater weight with their ratings. Allowing them to easily influence a vendors overall rating.
Frogbandit knows this and he is very arrogant and pompous and likes to find tiny problems and faults and then rate you down.
I had a minor disagreement with him, which could have been avoided if he had followed the 'terms and conditions' on my vendor page and contacted me before rating me so I could have the chance to fix the problem. He rated me down to 3/5 and that single bad rating dropped my overall rating from 100% to like 91%... despite the fact that I had 100% rating from around 280 transactions at that time.
The problem he had was legitimate, and when I realized that I was prepared to offer him a refund, but he was a real arsehole about it. He wouldnt accept a refund and it really came across that he enjoyed having the power to completely fuck with my overall rating.
In the end he demanded me to give him a 'sincere apology', and it took me a few attempts before he accepted I was 'sincere'. Basically he made me grovel and he enjoyed doing it. When he was at fault because he didnt follow my terms and conditions: to contact me if there is a problem with the order BEFORE you rate.
So in summary. I will NEVER accept an order from him again. He is not the kind of buyer you want to have with power to influence your ratings. He takes pleasure in throwing his weight around. I would advise to steer clear of him.
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I Can confirm Cannancoke is a serial pest. Very hard person to deal with I would advise caution when dealing with this user.
I dont know if Autofinialising is enough to get added to the ban list but I will let you know of a few.:
3luke3 - 1/2oz
messagemedium - 1 oz
potwombat - 1oz
I'll put them on the list.
Vendors can still sell to them, but the buyer might have to FE. They will learn their lesson. I fucking hate FE'ers!
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Hello fellow vendors, I just got access to this forum.
I am about to do a big transaction with frogbandit who is on the scammers list.
Dryice can you please elaborate as to how he scammed you for an oz of coke? His stats are extremely good and it looks like he has never had a refund or auto-finalize in almost 100k spent of transactions?
I want to go through with a 10k order but want to know the method he used to scam you out of your oz of coke before I go through with it...
Just want to be prepared as to the method he used to scam you so I can prevent that and bring it up to you... How much did he get? 50% or did he manage to scam you the whole ounce?
thanks dude
I know I'm a bit late to reply to this, but...
It is often the buyers with very good stats who are scammers. They FE and then claim it never arrived and ask for a refund. Because they have FE's, the refund must be sent directly to them, so it doesn't affect their stats. Me and halfbaked got the same buyer try to scam us for 1oz weed. I got suspicious and knew he was scamming, and thanks to the vendor forum, that was confirmed.
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List updated.
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Hello fellow vendors, I just got access to this forum.
I am about to do a big transaction with frogbandit who is on the scammers list.
Dryice can you please elaborate as to how he scammed you for an oz of coke? His stats are extremely good and it looks like he has never had a refund or auto-finalize in almost 100k spent of transactions?
I want to go through with a 10k order but want to know the method he used to scam you out of your oz of coke before I go through with it...
Just want to be prepared as to the method he used to scam you so I can prevent that and bring it up to you... How much did he get? 50% or did he manage to scam you the whole ounce?
thanks dude
The thing you have to be careful about with Frogbandit is that his ratings carry ALOT of clout because of how much money he has spent thru SR.. and he likes to throw his weight around and push vendors about.
See, the rating system is weighted so that buyers who have spent alot of money and havent asked for refunds, are afforded greater weight with their ratings. Allowing them to easily influence a vendors overall rating.
Frogbandit knows this and he is very arrogant and pompous and likes to find tiny problems and faults and then rate you down.
I had a minor disagreement with him, which could have been avoided if he had followed the 'terms and conditions' on my vendor page and contacted me before rating me so I could have the chance to fix the problem. He rated me down to 3/5 and that single bad rating dropped my overall rating from 100% to like 91%... despite the fact that I had 100% rating from around 280 transactions at that time.
The problem he had was legitimate, and when I realized that I was prepared to offer him a refund, but he was a real arsehole about it. He wouldnt accept a refund and it really came across that he enjoyed having the power to completely fuck with my overall rating.
In the end he demanded me to give him a 'sincere apology', and it took me a few attempts before he accepted I was 'sincere'. Basically he made me grovel and he enjoyed doing it. When he was at fault because he didnt follow my terms and conditions: to contact me if there is a problem with the order BEFORE you rate.
So in summary. I will NEVER accept an order from him again. He is not the kind of buyer you want to have with power to influence your ratings. He takes pleasure in throwing his weight around. I would advise to steer clear of him.
frogbandit tried to do a similar thing to us on a large coke order and we told him to take his business elsewhere in future, then he had the audacity to order from us again. Luckily we have a few bulk customers with good stats so his bad rating only effected us for a few weeks.
Stay away from any business with him it's not worth it!
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Hello fellow vendors, I just got access to this forum.
I am about to do a big transaction with frogbandit who is on the scammers list.
Dryice can you please elaborate as to how he scammed you for an oz of coke? His stats are extremely good and it looks like he has never had a refund or auto-finalize in almost 100k spent of transactions?
I want to go through with a 10k order but want to know the method he used to scam you out of your oz of coke before I go through with it...
Just want to be prepared as to the method he used to scam you so I can prevent that and bring it up to you... How much did he get? 50% or did he manage to scam you the whole ounce?
thanks dude
The thing you have to be careful about with Frogbandit is that his ratings carry ALOT of clout because of how much money he has spent thru SR.. and he likes to throw his weight around and push vendors about.
See, the rating system is weighted so that buyers who have spent alot of money and havent asked for refunds, are afforded greater weight with their ratings. Allowing them to easily influence a vendors overall rating.
Frogbandit knows this and he is very arrogant and pompous and likes to find tiny problems and faults and then rate you down.
I had a minor disagreement with him, which could have been avoided if he had followed the 'terms and conditions' on my vendor page and contacted me before rating me so I could have the chance to fix the problem. He rated me down to 3/5 and that single bad rating dropped my overall rating from 100% to like 91%... despite the fact that I had 100% rating from around 280 transactions at that time.
The problem he had was legitimate, and when I realized that I was prepared to offer him a refund, but he was a real arsehole about it. He wouldnt accept a refund and it really came across that he enjoyed having the power to completely fuck with my overall rating.
In the end he demanded me to give him a 'sincere apology', and it took me a few attempts before he accepted I was 'sincere'. Basically he made me grovel and he enjoyed doing it. When he was at fault because he didnt follow my terms and conditions: to contact me if there is a problem with the order BEFORE you rate.
So in summary. I will NEVER accept an order from him again. He is not the kind of buyer you want to have with power to influence your ratings. He takes pleasure in throwing his weight around. I would advise to steer clear of him.
frogbandit tried to do a similar thing to us on a large coke order and we told him to take his business elsewhere in future, then he had the audacity to order from us again. Luckily we have a few bulk customers with good stats so his bad rating only effected us for a few weeks.
Stay away from any business with him it's not worth it!
Ah interesting. Don't suppose you'd be interested in sharing details of what he did ADD?
Ok, on a troubling note. After posting my experience above with this problem buyer Frogbandit, to help out a newer vendor. I now have the person in question messaging me (yes... Frogbandit), claiming I have called him an extortionist on the forum and demanding I remove my posts about him, or he will go and change his rating to damage my stats.
That is clearly using the rating system to blackmail me and hold me to ransom. This is NOT how the rating system is meant to be used. It's meant to be used as a way a buyer can provide feedback on a single purchase.
The one purchase Frogbandit made with me was settled to his satisfaction, when I agreed that he had a legitimate complaint with his order, and -as per his wishes - I made a 'sincere apology' to him. (He wouldn't accept the % refund I offered him). At that time he changed his 3/5 rating to a 5/5 and I haven't heard from him since.
Now he pops up and threatens to use the rating system as a weapon against me, saying he will rate me down unless I remove my post about him.
Ok... so my question is. Who is the scumbag sharing information from the vendor forum with buyers?
I very much hope it wasn't you Peaceful, as the information above was posted to inform you about the possible dangers of selling to this guy??!
I am going to bring the last couple of posts of this thread to the attention of SR staff because its a huge problem that people like Frogbandit can hold vendors to ransom via the rating system.
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@Peaceful... Obviously you told him whats been said in the Vendor forum because now I have frogbandit threatening to go back to his rating and rate me down because I've posted about my bad experience with him!!! I have a huge problem with you taking information from the Vendor Round Table and sharing it with buyers... I think you are waaaaay out of line doing that.
I also have a problem with you posting information from personal messages I have sent to other people.... I don't know how the other vendors involved feel about that? I bet they wont like it.
The description frogbandit gives of my transaction with him is heavily biased and contains several out right lies.
He never 'Immediately apologized' to me for bypassing my terms and conditions and I never responded to him with "hey man sorry the shrooms were soggy, next time they won't be and it's all good"... Thats complete bullshit. You can tell from the way I write, thats not something I would say.
I was the one who said if I can replicate the problem with my remaining stock, then I will believe him. He didnt suggest it, I did.
I concede that I probably came across as rude to him initially. The reason was, that I was dealing with scam attempts at the same time, and when he contacted me I wrongly suspected he was just another one (especially because ... very interestingly, all the scam attempts I was dealing with at the time, came from the same smallish geographic location - which is also where the buyer in question was from)... So I drew the conclusion it was a person or persons running multiple accounts and fucking with vendors. I still have my suspicions... And it remains an interesting fact that 90% of the scam attempts I have had to deal with have all come from that same area... To the extent that I decline orders coming from that geographic area now.
However.. as you can see from the communication. I realized that his complaint was legitimate and I offered him a refund which he declined, I think I also offered to reship some product, which he also declined.
After my initial annoyance, and once I realised he had a legit complaint I dealt with the whole thing professionally.
I never said in the blacklists he was a scammer, I said he is a problem buyer who misuses the rating system as a weapon to push vendors around for his own gratification, because it gives him a hard on or something... And I stand by that summary.
And again I wont be having any more dealings with him. Whether you do is entirely your choice.
However Peaceful.... Please stop sharing information from the Vendor Round Table with non-vendors! Not cool man! >:( Now I have to deal with this guy threatening me again... and I was trying to help you make an informed decision. Way to go! >:(>:(>:(
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Hi,
In talking with frogbandit I asked him exactly what had happened with dryice, ADD and DSR.
These are his responses:
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Out of 100 transactions and over 100k spent I have only left 3 negative feedbacks and 2 of them I went and changed to 5/5 anyway. I have never received a refund from any domestic vendor, nor asked for one and always finalize within 24 hours.
The only few people I have had problems with are AussieDomesticDrugs, dryice and DSR Syndicate.
DSR: I ordered 14 grams of shrooms off him, then I left him 4/5 because they came soggy and when I dried them out I lost 2.5grams of weight so one of our friends couldn't trip with us and it was a huge let down. DSR contacted me abusing me for not sending him a message first, which I probably should have done and apologized for straight away. I then explained the shrooms were soggy and when dried I lost weight, I told him I didn't want a refund and he then told me I must have been a scammer and tried telling me some story that I was using multiple accounts to scam him????
Then I kept telling him I'm not changing my feedback because he's been so rude to me and all he had to say was "hey man sorry the shrooms were soggy, next time they won't be and it's all good". Eventually I told him to replicate the issue by trying to dry 14 grams of the same batch of shrooms and he said he DID infact lose weight... I was extremely offended at the time when he constantly kept telling me I was just a scammer and trying to ruin his rating (even though I only left 4/5 which is totally fair considering I was effectively ripped off). Anyway, after he admitted to selling me soggy shrooms, I said that's cool man and gave him 5/5 again. These are our last messages to each other:
DSR:
Ok so you are right. I took 14g and put it into my food dehydrator and after 1 hour it went down to 12.5 grams. So you are right. I did dry them all in the same food dehydrator, what I suppose has happened is that while being stored in jars, I either havent had enough dessicating material in the jars, or the packets I did have have reached their limit. Either way in the intervening time the shrooms have absorbed some moisture.
Regardless.
I apologize for assuming your were trying to extort money from me.
I unreservedly apologize for sending you underweight product. The offer of a % return of funds proportionate to the missing weight is still on offer.
Yes this situation could have been resolved by me being less attacking in my initial response, by giving you the benefit of the doubt and by not jumping to the conclusion that you were associated with another ongoing scam attempt I am dealing with.
You could also have prevented this situation by messaging me to discuss the problem before rating me (as it requests on my page). I understand that you didnt want a return of funds or to be sent more product. But I would have had the chance receive your complaint, and enter negotiations with you prior to you rating me down. I would have been much happier for you to put your message that there had been a problem which was rectified, than you rating me down without giving me the chance to fix the problem.
Regarding your presence on the blacklists. There are more than one person who has added you. DryIce is one, but somebody had added you before he posted about you... But Im not sure who the original person(s) were to add you.
So you have my unreserved apology, and an offer to refund a proportionate % of bc. I hope you can now adjust your rating.
Me:
Rating changed, you don't have to send me the refund.
Cheers,
FB
Me again:
Sorry for not contacting you before leaving feedback. I actually could have sworn I read your profile entirely and I didn't see that.
The reason I left feedback and didn't contact is because it wasn't worth me going to resolution center and getting a refund strike against my name for a measly $50. So I just left a fair review and wrote it off as a loss. It wasn't an attack or anything like that, I had an amazing time on your shrooms and I thank-you very much for that.
I have a lot of respect for vendors on here - the risk is high and I can appreciate that.
Enjoy your day and sorry about all this crap. I'm sure on any other day we would have settled this much quicker but it appears we both chose the wrong things to say to each other and things got more heated than they needed to.
Cheers
FB
Him:
Yes I agree. The wrong initial response taken by both parties. I was in a angry state of mind because I was at the time dealing with a scam attempt and I was kicking myself for not making 'check buyers against blacklists' a standard step in my fulfillment process. So I did fly in with teeth bared. And clearly I made a mistake. Although the extra bit of evidence that influenced how I responded to you is that you ARE blacklisted... that has nothing to do with me, but it did make me think, 'Great, I've stupidly managed to sell to another scammer!' and it influenced how I responded to you because I started seeing connections between you and the ongoing issue I have with another user.
Yes i can understand you dont want to receive a refund thru the res center as it will spoil your purchase stats. That is an issue... Because I AM happy to discuss refunds IF there is a legitimate issue ( as in your case there was). Yet, buyers will be reluctant to go that route in order to preserve their good buying rep... I guess the only way to do it, is for the vendor to simply send back some funds, outside the res center but still within SR? But then from my side I feel reluctant to do that because it leaves all the risk with me.... Not sure how to work that. I guess by making sure the product is perfect... and not underweight.... So there is no problem to start with...
Anyway. Take it easy. Thanks for changing the rating.
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AussieDomesticDrugs:
I take MDMA every 3 months. You can message MeanwhileInAustralia, I have bought over 40grams from him. You can message neuroplex, I have ordered 2 oz from him. You can message digitalpunk, I have ordered small samples of MDMA from him. You can message SydneysFinest, I have ordered mdma pills from him.
I ordered 10 of his "100mg" pills and went out with 4 other friends. We each dropped 2 pills and literally only one of us was feeling remotely chopped. I normally only ever cap up MDMA to 160mgs and eat it like that and ALWAYS have a good roll. I had a roll 3 months after ADD's pills and it only took 160mgs to get me rolling. So by clear logic, his pills were underdosed, at least the ones I got. So I left him 3/5 and explained my situation clearly in the feedback. ADD never contacted me about it and we never spoke again. This is my only interaction with him.
dryice:
I ordered 1oz of coke from dryice. I received it, sent a huge thank-you message before sampling and finalized before sampling. I then tried the coke and it just made me feel anxious/nervous and jittery. So I bought a reagent kit and tested 50mgs and got no color change indicating cocaine. I then sold some to friends of mine and everyone complained saying it was shit. I ordered his "Best coke in Australia straight from SA".
I contacted him and he told me he cut it back 25% and it's the best cocaine I've ever had and started calling me a "FUCKING RETARD" and saying I'm "EITHER LE OR A FUCKING SCAMMER". I asked him how come the listing name was advertised as straight from SA when you cut it back 25% and received no reply.
I asked him if there was anything I could possibly do to get some kind of compensation, seeing as when I try it, don't like it, it doesn't test positive for cocaine and then I give it to a few of my friends and they all say it's the worst coke I've ever had... What exactly SHOULD I have done in this situation?
Anyway a while later I contacted dryice and said whatever man I'll just put the feedback as 5/5 and give you the benefit of the doubt that it was just a bad batch and updated his feedback to 5/5... Here are our last messages:
dryice:
Can you please review your feedback brother?
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=108950.msg1345557#msg1345557
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=108950.0
Published on: July 16 2013
Tested by: PineappleLove
Vendor: Dryice
Listed as: "Pure Peruvian Cocaine"
Purchasing method: Agreement
Results:
88% Cocaine
No active cuts
Me:
Ok man...
Sorry, maybe I was wrong all along. Sorry dude I really didn't mean to fuck your feedback up for so long. I took acid last night and realized that I've always been a bit selfish and because everyone I was selling the coke to was complaining I thought I got scammed.
But I think you're not lying anymore and maybe my customers were just fucking idiots. Sorry mate, if you want me to write an apology on the forums I will too.
Cheers,
FB
dryice:
Thanks mate all good don't worry about the apology. It was just frustrating knowing the quality and getting feedback like that.
Can you please change your feedback from 1/5 for me?
The reason your customers would have been complaining is because they have never seen cocaine this pure and clean. All good though Piece
regards
dryice
So please... you be the judge and feel free to go and post this on the vendor round table. It's not fair that vendors use the blacklist forum as a way to block customers when THEY are in the wrong. Especially when they call me a scammer or try say I'm extortionist them by using my feedback. When I have NEVER had a refund, so how could I possibly be a scammer? I haven't even had a refund by people sending me refunds to my account let alone on my feedback record. I also ALWAYS finalize early, and always leave great feedback for any transactions that don't have any issues.
Anyway if you want to trade I'm willing to do as small increments as you like to prove that I'm not a scammer. Which quite frankly feels ridiculous that I have to justify myself over a $50 mushroom purchase, a $300 pill order when I have spent over $100k on this site and have had positive experiences with almost every single other vendor.
Please contact these people and ask them if I've ever tried to scam them, extort them or even do anything besides be really polite and finalize immediately:
re1oad
AustralianHash
MeanwhileInAustralia
NeuroPlex
kkroids
dimitry
TheSpiceMerchant
OzAlpha
Fear The Reaper
SUPPLYIN AUS
grimreaper
OZ ROCK CAFE
mrmining
aceman123
budbrother
Dimitry
1dboladay
theweedman
OzGrow
AU1stopshop
Synthiotics
digitalpunk
Anyway you be the judge. It's amazing that none of the vendors that I have been a loyal customer to have stood up for me at all...
Would appreciate if you posted in the vendor forum..."
I did not tell him what anyone said in this thread. However, is any of the above a lie? I like to give everyone the benefit of the doubt and it really seems like he just genuinely had problems with orders and didn't ask for refunds, so I'd really like someone to elaborate on how he can be labelled a "scammer". Dryice please respond as you claim he scammed you for an ounce of coke, please explain the exact scam? ADD, is it true you had no contact with him other than the feedback he left?
DSR are all the messages from frogbandit correct or did he fabricate them?
Peace guys, appreciate the comments
Are you fucking kidding me? You are going and sharing the details of our blacklistings with customers? That's disrespectful as fuck coming from someone called 'Peaceful'.
I pressed those fucking pills myself using MDMA from ItalianMafiaBrussels and I know exactly how they were dosed. He is full of shit. He had the only bad feedback out of more than 7000 Red Nazi pills that we made and sold. We made 700grams into 7000 pills and they were mixed for several hours before pressing, and he claims that they are underdosed like we made some special pills just to rip him off? There are several respected forum members we have sold those pills to who can vouch that they are as strong as we said they were, not to mention the hundreds of other people we sold them to. We are a top 6% vendor with well over 1000 sales, many of which are worth in excess of $10K, we have nothing to gain from under-dosing pills to ruin our reputation. We also messaged him which he ignored, we message every single person who leaves less than 5/5 seeking a resolution.
Go deal with frogbandit and have fun kissing goodbye to your good rating. Thanks to you I will not be sharing any more scamming buyers publicly in this thread as I can no longer trust that you will not contact them possibly causing them to downgrade their ratings to 1/5's out of spite. You are doing a disservice to all of the other Australian vendors here with your complete lack of loyalty.
Have a good day.
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...Go deal with frogbandit and have fun kissing goodbye to your good rating. Thanks to you I will not be sharing any more scamming buyers publicly in this thread as I can no longer trust that you will not contact them possibly causing them to downgrade their ratings to 1/5's out of spite. You are doing a disservice to all of the other Australian vendors here with your complete lack of loyalty....
Nah man dont do that. We have to keep these Blacklists well maintained because its the best protection we have against fuckwits and scammers.
Keep your contributions coming ADD, dont let this bushit stop you from contributing to these lists.
The fault here is with frogbandit for using the rating system as a tool for blackmail, and with Peaceful for being a idiot and sharing info from the Vendor Forum with non-vendors.
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Hi,
Sorry, if a moderator wants to delete my posts with private messages in them then do so. I wasn't meaning any harm but it genuinely seems like this guy didn't scam any vendors and I wanted to know if he was lying or telling the truth so I posted the dialogue.
It did seem really strange though that DSR sent frogbandit a message apologizing for a mistake he made and them ending on a good note, then he came and posted here? So I wanted to check if frogbandit was full of it or if that was really the case.
What is everyone going on about though? I just told this guy that he was on the vendor blacklist and he explained himself. I didn't tell him who said he was blacklisted!?!?!? What information have I told him besides the fact he was blacklisted?
@DSR - frogbandit said that he knows for certain dryice put him on the list because YOU told him... so you really are the only person here that has given a buyer information, I have told this guy NOTHING.
What information did I tell frogbandit? I messaged him telling him he's on blacklist and for him to explain any reason why vendors would have put him there (I didn't even mention any names, ask SR staff). Then he said he has only left 3 bad feedbacks one to DSR, one to dryice and one to ADD and he explained why. So what exactly did I tell him that he didn't already know?
What exactly have I done wrong here? I did not disclose any information from this board and I didn't have any negative intentions towards any vendors here...
Much love to everyone, please feel free to delete any of my posts here that have accidentally offended people.
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Honestly, anyone here is always welcome to post any messages between me and any buyer. I'm also happy to post any dialogues I have ever had with any of my buyers, I have nothing to hide or be ashamed of.
But samesame, delete the message please. I don't want to cause any issues and that definitely wasn't my intention.
My sincerest apologies
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What exactly did I do wrong and how would you like me to fix it?
Open question to anyone.
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What exactly did I do wrong and how would you like me to fix it?
Open question to anyone.
So you pm'd me and said you would be happy to remove all the personal messages of mine that you posted. Please go ahead an do that.... including that biased description that frogbandit sent you, please.
whether you accept orders from this user or not is entirely up to you.
You ask what did you do wrong? Its been spelled out multiple times for you, but here it is again since you seem unable to grasp it.
Posting other people's private messages is not on, As SSBD has told you.
And sharing info from the Vendor Round Table with non-vendors is also not on... which you clearly did, because as I have said a number of times, I now have this problem buyer threatening me with the rating system once again... even tho my dispute with him was settled months ago.
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Sonic3000 - Newish buyer, purchased 1g of meth off me... left a 1 out of 5 without contacting me why. To this day my mail to him remains unread. I assume it was an attempt to tarnish image.
Also, medalon9012, bought LSD tabs off me rated by Avengers... left a 3 out of 5 without contacting me and claimed the tabs were not LSD... despite selling hundreds of them to other repeat buyers who all vouch for the quality.
EDIT: lol, one hour after writing this post, Sonic3000 responds to my mail. Strange or what?
He tells me in a few words that the gear was cut, yet he never mentioned that in his original feedback, and cant go into any more detail.
I have never cut my gear and never will, my customers know the purity of my gear. This guy is just out to tarnish or scam.
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Sonic300 is trying to pull the same shit with me now. Claiming non arival after 2 weeks and wanting a 50% reship. I know he got it, luckily I got him to finalise before I sent it... yet to change his feedback but from the post above I am sure that will be his next course of action to attempt to get some free meth.
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What exactly did I do wrong and how would you like me to fix it?
Open question to anyone.
First off if this thead were public domain to the whole of SR do you not think that you would find it in the offtopic section instead? You should have asked both vendors if it was okay to discuss the problems they've had with the user before yapping on about it. Here's another solution...you could have just mentioned to the user that they're blacklisted and if they would like to explain why they think they are on it in the first place while continuing to liason in this thread with the vendors involved on whether or not to do business with the user.
On SR we are a community working together and your actions have undermined that.
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@Peaceful. I will ask again. *Please* remove that series of personal messages I exchanged with frogbandit.
And please stop sharing information from the Vendor Round Table with non-vendors.
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What exactly did I do wrong and how would you like me to fix it?
Open question to anyone.
First off if this thead were public domain to the whole of SR do you not think that you would find it in the offtopic section instead? You should have asked both vendors if it was okay to discuss the problems they've had with the user before yapping on about it. Here's another solution...you could have just mentioned to the user that they're blacklisted and if they would like to explain why they think they are on it in the first place while continuing to liason in this thread with the vendors involved on whether or not to do business with the user.
On SR we are a community working together and your actions have undermined that.
Would +1 you if we had enough posts :)
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just like to chime in here without having read through this (gotta be quick)
I have been getting extorted by frogbadidt with him changing my feedback after he finally agreed to change my from 1/5 to 5/5 due to my lab tests on the gear back to 1/5 with threats that if I don't clear his name here he will rubbish my name. I wore the guy's 1/5 feedback for a long time and it cost me a lot of business and people talking trash to me on the forums. I have been talking with him and he has agreed to change it back to 5/5 if I come here and say he is not a scammer. He did pay for his gear, this was a horrible transaction though because they guy took my 80%+ cocaine and said it was shit and I needed to resolve this matter with him. he then went to the forums and said I scammed him for an ounce of cocaine.
He may not have scammed me but he shore fucked my business for a fair while over nothing.
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just like to chime in here without having read through this (gotta be quick)
I have been getting extorted by frogbadidt with him changing my feedback after he finally agreed to change my from 1/5 to 5/5 due to my lab tests on the gear back to 1/5 with threats that if I don't clear his name here he will rubbish my name. I wore the guy's 1/5 feedback for a long time and it cost me a lot of business and people talking trash to me on the forums. I have been talking with him and he has agreed to change it back to 5/5 if I come here and say he is not a scammer. He did pay for his gear, this was a horrible transaction though because they guy took my 80%+ cocaine and said it was shit and I needed to resolve this matter with him. he then went to the forums and said I scammed him for an ounce of cocaine.
He may not have scammed me but he shore fucked my business for a fair while over nothing.
As the guy is now trying to extort you and DSR syndicate with feedback blackmail and threatening you both I'd say he 100% belongs on the blacklist.
This is exactly the kind of customer no-one wants to be dealing with!
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QualitySauces
Guy has spend over 10K and uses it to try and get free shit off me cause he says my stuff sucks (Lol). Told him to fuck off, so got a 1/5 and leaving bullshit reviews all over the place
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fluffybuds
Claimed our weed was 'shiiiiiiiiit'. No other complaints from anyone. Then sends us a near-unreadable message bitching that we screwed him. Then claims he is dyslexic.
Stay away form this guy, fellow Vendors. He's all over the shop and really not worth doing business with.
Reaper
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I confirm 'fluffybuds' should be blacklisted. He/she is aggressive and completely unreasonable. He/she Uses extortion techniques when going about his/her business. We advise extreme caution when dealing with this buyer. We have gone to the extent of blacklisting his/her address for future orders.
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Thanks GunjaBabe for confirming our suspicions.
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Please also add: 'mrhelpeverybody12'
We shipped some items to him/her via Express Post over a month ago.
The buyer claims to have never received it. Tracking shows DELIVERED. It even shows that it was processed in the nearest Postal centre to his drop address.
Then we log on this morning and he/she has left a 2/5 and it's dropped our rating.
We offered reship/refund when it occurred, customer said he would contact Aus Post and ask about the items (they weren't of an illegal nature), and never did.
So, we have decided to warn fellow vendors about this buyer.
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List updated.
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Thanks to Dingo for keeping this list updated, it is an invaluable service to us vendors.
8)
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QualitySauces
Guy has spend over 10K and uses it to try and get free shit off me cause he says my stuff sucks (Lol). Told him to fuck off, so got a 1/5 and leaving bullshit reviews all over the place
Your stuff doesn't suck, I'm smoking your hash right now :)
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QualitySauces
Guy has spend over 10K and uses it to try and get free shit off me cause he says my stuff sucks (Lol). Told him to fuck off, so got a 1/5 and leaving bullshit reviews all over the place
Your stuff doesn't suck, I'm smoking your hash right now :)
Probably the same person with different vendor accounts that did the same to me a few months back.
3 people all in one week from the Melbourne area gave me terrible reviews. Nearly everyone else has left a 5/5 and the quality is good.
It's definitely not the best (I never said it was either), but it is good.
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Probably the same person with different vendor accounts that did the same to me a few months back.
3 people all in one week from the Melbourne area gave me terrible reviews. Nearly everyone else has left a 5/5 and the quality is good.
It's definitely not the best (I never said it was either), but it is good.
My 'Red Zone' is the suburbs in and around Brisbane. Thats where I've had the most trouble from buyers.
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plotlost
Same person as previously listed 'losttheplot'
Mailed me today demanding his half G of ice that he ordered two months ago. Provided a bogus transaction number.
Needless to say I have never done business with the person.
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plotlost
Same person as previously listed 'losttheplot'
Mailed me today demanding his half G of ice that he ordered two months ago. Provided a bogus transaction number.
Needless to say I have never done business with the person.
I reported him last 'losttheplot' and SR staff banned him. Please report this guy again.
IIRC this guy made one vendor so mad (successfully scammed the vendor) that the vendor doxxed her on the main forum and ended up getting himself banned.
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Beware of these two:
badmangoodbadman
fg3999
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plotlost tried to get me for a half ounce of meth
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plotlost tried to get me for a half ounce of meth
Hes notorious for trying to scam people, LOL.
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wasn't going to do it, but fuck it :) If someone orders something at 5.20 and I'm home, I'll rush to get it out before 6pm.. the least people can do is finalize.... within 17 days....
trollywaffle809 - 1 day left to auto finalize
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wasn't going to do it, but fuck it :) If someone orders something at 5.20 and I'm home, I'll rush to get it out before 6pm.. the least people can do is finalize.... within 17 days....
trollywaffle809 - 1 day left to auto finalize
Auto-finalisers are the worst. Could they be any more selfish?
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Ok so i got a largish order from someone with 5 previous transactions, and as is my want in such circumstances i kept a note of the post code. Despite tracking saying delivered he is now telling me it is not. Upon closer inspection i see it is the same postcode that Yatzee uses. Should i jump to the obvious conclusion?
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BEWARE OF lj77777
sent 2 orders regular mail with the best stealth on the market . still claims it did not arrive . BS . REGULAR MAIL ALWAYS MAKES IT. HE KNEW IT WAS REGULAR MAIL, SO ITS NOT LIKE I WAS SUPPOSE TO TRACK AND HE NOTICED AND PULLED THE CARD. HE PULLED THE I DID NOT GET CARD?
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japara7722 - Ordered the smallest speed listing, FE, left a negative comment about the product without any contact at all and when questioned.. told me to "fuck off you rip off dog" hmmmmmmm :o
conclusion = total idiot, Vendor that feels threatened now that I am back selling my top quality speed for a affordable price.
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Ok so i got a largish order from someone with 5 previous transactions, and as is my want in such circumstances i kept a note of the post code. Despite tracking saying delivered he is now telling me it is not. Upon closer inspection i see it is the same postcode that Yatzee uses. Should i jump to the obvious conclusion?
Yahtzee is a serial scammer!
How do you know Yahtzee's postcode though?
He tried to scam both me and halfbaked out of an oz of weed.
I knew he was up to something because he finalised when it arrived then 2 weeks later left 1/5 and whinged that I am a terrible vendor and it didn't arrive.
If it didn't arrive, why would you finalise?
I offered him a refund through escrow but he declined (wanted to keep 0% refund rate) and I later found out halfbaked had the same problem.
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johnnywishbone
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I know his postcode cause i did business with him before i got access to the vendor forum. 1st time no problems, second time he finalised...then 2 weeks later said it never arrived. Assume he was hoping i had thrown tracking away but i hadn't so when i sent him tracking number he just never replied again. After that i added him to my personal shit list, and from the Auspost tracking i knew which small town he dwells in.
Didn't register that this new guy was from the same small town until he said it never arrived, then i checked and yup....same town with only 30k people....what are the odds of two scammer from the same small town?
Anyways, i told him i wouldn't refund and that i had had a scammer from that town before so sorry, tracking says delivered, not my problem.
He then claimed it arrived on a tuesday, after tracking said friday the week before?
As an aside, i assume lots of vendors are now not getting rated or reviewed? The question becomes, will you continue to sell to somebody that does not rate you? Was thinking an enterprising scammer could clock up lots of un rated buys off you, then threaten to give u 1/5 for all of them, and they would all arrive at once.